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February 28, 2020

P: Bleeding color with Healing Tool

  • February 28, 2020
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I updated to 9.3 this morning. Healing aspect of spot removal tool now has bleeding in many previously edited pictures which did not previously have bleeding -- what was before a clean background with spots removed now has ugly bleeding of color, and I can't use the healing tool properly in new edits either -- bleeds result.   What can I do to fix this -- I am pretty concerned, this has affected many photos.  Thanks.

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Legend
July 30, 2020
Michael, LrC 9.3 was released 15 June 2020. Again, this bug in 9.3's Spot Healing on the uncropped image edge is not the same bug that you had reported over 5 months ago. LrC 9.2.1 doesn't have this problem. The mess was introduced in LrC 9.3, making what was possibly slightly buggy considerably worse.

Known Participant
July 30, 2020
Good question Alexander!  But when was 9.3 released?  (And/or maybe I should ask, when was *any* version later than 9.2.1 released?)  Because I first noticed & reported this issue over 5 months ago.
alexskunz
Inspiring
July 29, 2020
Michael, why don't you revert to version 9.2.1? It's really easy.
Sean H [Seattle branch]
Known Participant
July 29, 2020
That was me. I learned that the issue I ran into was a collision between the color-masked adjustments and the clone/heal. LR doesn't handle it well, but it's sort of a different issue than this edge effect issue. 

The collision is when you pull a gradient in the sky, choose the color picker for the blue, then make adjustments for that masked area. Using clone/heal in that area leads to unpredictable results.
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Known Participant
July 29, 2020
Someone commented earlier today that Lr is unusable now because of this issue.  I'm not sure where their comment went, I'm either missing it here or perhaps they removed it.  But I agree completely - I am unable to finish a critical percentage of images for my work because of this issue.  So what little work I have, thanks to the pandemic, is now crippled by this issue.  Thus, this has become much more than just a mere inconvenience.  I wonder if Adobe realizes just how much this particular issue affects it's users?
Sean H [Seattle branch]
Known Participant
July 29, 2020
At this point, Lr is unusable due to this. There's so much minor cleanup I do as a matter of practice on all of my portraits and commercial interiors. I'm now seeing not just edge effect issues but also just straight up simple clone/heal issues. I'm seeing ghosting of the clone/heal over the area being fixed where the source is something simple like the sky. Opacity is set to 100%. 




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philc30713433
Known Participant
July 27, 2020
I just submitted an idea that would be solved with a "constrain to image" or not option about whether the spot removal could pull source material from cropped out areas with the same texture/colour
Participant
July 26, 2020
I was about to post this exact scenario.  I used to be able to remove the black umbrella if it crept in to the frame with Spot Removal (Heal) but now I cannot.  This is new behavior for Lightroom Classic.  I'm on 9.3.

As a workaround, I use Spot Removal (Clone) first then a second removal using Heal to blend the edge.  It's a lot more work.
Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
July 16, 2020
Thanks. I've attached this to the bug report. 
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Legend
July 16, 2020
@8510810 Flohr,

Not sure why the JPG image provided is insufficient. I don't have a RAW or DNG for this exact image because I added the artificial spots in Photoshop for testing purposes.

Nevertheless, here is a link to download the DNG (converted from original NEF) shown below in a screen shot as another example image.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6j851dnx4oqcrvn/DSC_0188.DNG?dl=0

The only Develop processing done and saved to the DNG is to use the Spot Removal Tool in Heal mode to remove indicated tree branches on the left and right sides of the image.



When this DNG is imported in LrC 9.2.1, the healing is as expected.



When it is imported into LrC 9.3, the healing is a mess.



Looking forward to an update.