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Participating Frequently
Oct 28, 2020 8:28 PM UTC
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P: Copy/Sync Crop and Spot Removal wrong results at portrait photos

Copy or sync crop and spot removal develop settings causes wrong results at portrait photos. The crop and spot removal settings are wrong by 90° after copy/paste or sync.

 

Here an example photo to reproduce.

- Importing in Lightroom Classic 10

- Create a copy by edit in Photoshop 

- Make a small edit, e.g. add text "Photoshop edit" and save.

- Add a crop and spot removal e.g.

 

- Copy or sync the crop and spot removal develop settings to the same/original photo before the edit in Photoshop. But the result of the crop and spot removal is totally wrong:

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Participating Frequently
Mar 25, 2021 2:46 PM UTC

Version 10.1.1 Camera `3.1 Build 202101041610-8c69aa4e works correctly.

Before sync. 

After Sync.
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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Mar 25, 2021 1:40 PM UTC

If you roll back, @JWacher  please confirm here that the behavior is different in the previous version. 

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Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
johnrellis
Legend
Mar 25, 2021 2:11 AM UTC

"Is there a way to roll back to a previous release?"

See https://www.lightroomqueen.com/roll-back-update-previous-classic/ 

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Participating Frequently
Mar 24, 2021 8:18 PM UTC

Just did portrait to portrait.  Is fine except when the portrait was originally a landscape. Sample first is after 2nd before.

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Participating Frequently
Mar 24, 2021 8:01 PM UTC

That works except in one or two cases that I will have to isolate as for reason.  Problem is, I have been doing this for several years and have never had to isolate orientation when synching the aspect ratio.  Is there a way to roll back to a previous release?

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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Mar 24, 2021 6:35 PM UTC

The workflow is normally to:

  1. Select all
  2. Apply Aspect
  3. Tweak Crops as necessary

In your case, you've pre-cropped without Aspect Ratio so it is a manual process to fix them all now. 

What happens if you sync portrait only to portrait and landscapes only to landscapes?

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Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Participating Frequently
Mar 24, 2021 4:48 PM UTC

The green images are what I started with and the red is after quick develop. The aspect ratio is now 16:9, 

but the original crop is gone.

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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Mar 24, 2021 1:25 PM UTC

You change it in QD Panel in the top section (You may have to expand the disclosure triangle).  There is a 16x9 option in the Crop Ratio pulldown.

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Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Participating Frequently
Mar 24, 2021 2:20 AM UTC

LR Classic  10.2 Release Build 202103041821-226a1211

Camera Raw 13.2

As for the previous version Creative Cloud updates my apps automatically so I would not know. Guess I should start keeping track of the versions and dates .

I can find nothing in quick develop to change the aspect ratio of the photos from (2x3/4x6) to (16x9). 

The only thing Sync screws up that I am aware of is changing from 2x3/4x6 to 16x9 when the orientation of the photo was changed from the original and is different from the base photo used in the sync operation.

Yesterday I took a set of photos and selected all the 4x6 landscape photos and using sync converted them to 16x9 using a landscape shot as the base. Then I selected all the portrait photos and did the same using a portrait shot as the base..  Very few of the photos required anything other then the normal minor adjustments to height and width.

Is there any way I can tell what release I was on before and return to it?

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johnrellis
Legend
Mar 24, 2021 12:04 AM UTC

"Why does Lightroom write metadata to the JPG when I have explicitly disabled it in the catalog settings? As you can see in the video, the JPG is modified and after deleting the images in Lightroom and re-importing, the last rotation is loaded."

LR doesn't consider rotation and flipping to be "develop settings".  They aren't copied by Copy Settings/Sync, they can't be set by presets, and they don't show up in the History panel. (But they do get copied by Develop Auto Sync -- go figure.)

Thus, since rotation and flipping aren't "develop settings" in LR's eyes, they get saved to the EXIF:Orientation field regardless of the setting of Catalog Settings > Metadata > Including Develop Settings.

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