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February 3, 2014

P: iPhone video Capture Time is shifted upon Import

  • February 3, 2014
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Beginning with at least the iPhone 4S, and continuing with the 5 and 5s, I see that videos shot with those devices show a capture time that seems to relate to GMT, when it was actually shot at GMT -5.

The videos show a correct creation time in Finder prior to import, but this odd shift occurs upon import. I know that the capture time can be edited in Lightroom, but I'd rather see the correct time on import.

This happens in Lightroom 5.3, but also occurred all the way back into 4.

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Smit K
Participating Frequently
April 28, 2017
Hi @jpolastre,

Could you share a sample video? You can send it to keniya@adobe.com

Thanks,
Smit Keniya
Smit | Lightroom Team
Inspiring
April 28, 2017


When importing a video (MOV) from an iPhone 6S to Lightroom 2015 6.10, the date and time imported is incorrect.

In Lightroom, an example video shows 3/4/2009 in LR but correctly 12/24/2015 in Finder.

I'm seeing this across all recently imported videos.
Rick Baumhauer
Inspiring
April 20, 2017
No - all of the videos were shot yesterday, all imported at the same time into LR 2015.10.
johnrellis
Legend
April 20, 2017
If it's an intermittent bug, that will be much harder to track down. Is there any possibility those two files were imported by a previous version of LR?
Rick Baumhauer
Inspiring
April 20, 2017
John - understood, I just wanted to point out that there was no difference in the data between files that imported with the correct time vs. incorrect time.

Unfortunately, I already changed the time in LR (which doesn't reference the original file, but a copy that is imported directly from my Photos library). I tried deleting those two files and reimporting, but now they come in with the correct time.

It appears that those two files originally imported with the UTC data for some reason - I have LR rename the files on import, and the time is part of my filename. Those two files were named (and sorted) based on the UTC time, not local. I imported all eight videos at the same time, and those two were the only ones that came in with incorrect time (just can't recreate it, unfortunately). If it happens again, I'll leave the copies in LR alone for further testing.
johnrellis
Legend
April 20, 2017
"When I export the original files from Photos, they show the incorrect file creation time in Finder (shifted four hours later than local EDT)."

Not many Mac apps maintain the original file creation times these days.  Photos and iPhotos don't, and neither does LR.
johnrellis
Legend
April 20, 2017
When I import those samples, LR is correctly reading the capture time recorded in the files:


For IMG_2120.MOV, ExifTool shows the following:
[QuickTime]     Create Date     : 2017:04:19 17:54:06
[QuickTime]     Creation Date   : 2017:04:19 13:54:06-04:00
The first line is the industry-standard QuickTime field recording the date/time in UTC, and the second line is the Apple proprietary field recording it in local time along with a time zone.

What capture times show up for those files in your catalog?  A screenshot of the Metadata panel would be great.
Rick Baumhauer
Inspiring
April 20, 2017
I shot a few videos on my iPhone 7+ yesterday, and importing into LR CC 2015.10 mostly worked as it should. Unfortunately, it was only "mostly" - of the eight videos, six came in with the correct timestamps, but two came in off (late) by 4 hours. All were shot with the same settings on the phone.

When I export the original files from Photos, they show the incorrect file creation time in Finder (shifted four hours later than local EDT). The files that imported with the correct time in Lightroom also show the incorrect creation time in Finder (so no difference with the files that show the incorrect time in Lightroom), and all files show the correct time in Photos.

Links to the two files with the incorrect time in LR follow:

https://drive.google.com/a/baumhauerphoto.com/uc?id=0B1l4li0Nl6WGY25NamIzV25HRjQ&export=download

https://drive.google.com/a/baumhauerphoto.com/uc?id=0B1l4li0Nl6WGYnRHZl8tVEdScm8&export=download
Participating Frequently
April 14, 2017
I deleted the file and re imported it again and this time it was correct.  The change seems to work sometimes and not other times, i had 2 back to back videos, imported them, one had correct pacific time, other had GMT time.  I sent both of those videos to you.  in that case, i've tried deleting/reimporting the one in GMT and it won't fix itself.

I've also noticed when I import in the folder for these videos, if I hover immediately over a video during import it shows GMT time, and then if I come back 30 seconds later for some of the videos and hover over them, i has correct pacific time, but other vidoes never change.  I think I quickly imported the video above earlier today and imported it while the app thought the time was GMT.  The second time, I waited and imported after it showed pacific time.

There are several nasty bugs in this fix.
Participating Frequently
April 13, 2017
I see it different in my library.  I think maybe this is becasue I had imported this video with the old version?  I thought if I deleted it and reimported it it should pick up the correct date, but it looks like the metadata is staying?  how can I flush the old metadata after I delete it before reimporting it?