P: Keyword options no longer available in LR4

Thank you. I have been using LR4.2 since it was first made available as a RC (Releas Candidate) and the Keyword Fix present in this release has been a life saver (one I reverted my KW's back to "normal" from the Kludgie work around I had to implement after installing 4.0.

Thanks again for listening to your user community and taking action on this item

Dan

Great work, Lightroom team! 🙂

Hi Howard,

You do realize the Adobe fixed this probem in LR4.2 RC (RC = Release Candidate) which you can download and use? In order to make everyone happy, they introduced a bit of logic when you edit the attributes of a KW. If, the "Export KW" had been on and you turn it off, then it unchecks the other two (nod to the privacy concern). However, once "Export KW" is off, then you can turn on either or both of the other two, giving us back the same capability we had prior to relase 4.0.

In yoour example, in the 4.2RC version you are able to have your Railway -> type -> Manufacturer -> Model -> Sub-group hierarchy in place but on export of a photo that just has the sub-group KW attached you can get Railway -> Manufacturer -> Model -> Sub-group included on the exported photo (note that the "Type" KW is not exported but "Railway" is). I think this is what you were after.

Dan

Jostein, that is exactly how I feel about the issue - you've worded it more concisely than I could ever attempt to on my own. It is a great solution.

I have this similar problem and believe the issue has to do with LR3 users who are not-very-clever. If they believe a keyword parent should NOT be exported, then that keyword should NOT be in that hierarchy in the first place. For example, using the file-path in the footer of a document would expose the naming structure of your file which is very obvious. They should use Collections for that purpose.

The problem with this issue in LR4 is now for people who have very detailed, structured sets of images, it is now very difficult to maintain a useful keyword vocabulary.

In my case, I have images of equipment and engineering related items. For example, I will have keyword parent-child groups like 'Railway', 'Type', 'Manufacturer', 'Model', 'Sub-Group Number'.

I do not want Keywords 'Type', for that means nothing by itself, but excluding this will not include 'Railway', which is means a lot.

To me, this 'bug' is really a defect in the masses' way of thinking...

I have this similar problem and believe the issue has to do with LR3 users who are not-very-clever. If they believe a keyword parent should NOT be exported, then that keyword should NOT be in that hierarchy in the first place. For example, using the file-path in the footer of a document would expose the naming structure of your file which is very obvious. They should use Collections for that purpose.

The problem with this issue in LR4 is now for people who have very detailed, structured sets of images, it is now very difficult to maintain a useful keyword vocabulary.

In my case, I have images of equipment and engineering related items. For example, I will have keyword parent-child groups like 'Railway', 'Type', 'Manufacturer', 'Model', 'Sub-Group Number'.

I do not want Keywords 'Type', for that means nothing by itself, but excluding this will not include 'Railway', which is means a lot.

To me, this 'bug' is really a defect in the masses' way of thinking...

Greaaaaaaaaaaat !

Many thanks, Adobe !

Just ordered LR 4 and will be upgrading as soon as I get it.

Thanks, guys !

I don't know... do you promise not to shoot the messenger? ;-)

-Ben

Thanks Ben,

If you hear that this "fix' for some reason will not be in the LR 4.2 produciton release can you please alert this thread?

Thanks -- Dan