P: Output Sharpening and Noise Reduction not working.

Sounds like a plan!

Hans, following your final advice, I snapshotted, then did a bump of the NR just before export and set to standard sharpen on export.

End result below:


Not identical, but very very close.

Thank you BOTH for such helpful advice!

Same to you Shane. Maybe Adobe will announce new things/solutions in 4 hours... can't wait. 🙂

Hi Hans,

Thanks for that. I've just been playing with those settings and see what you mean. I can get the "sharpness" overall to be the more or less the same on export, but you're right. The noise reduction is miles away.

I'll just need to remember that in lightroom - what you see is not what you get. I guess a slight overshoot on the noise reduction would do the trick.

Thanks to both you and Rob for your help (@rob: I got much closer through following your extensive effort in other threads).

Thanks Gents, I wish you both a very good day.

All the best,
Shane.

Here I see the same thing. Although your screenshot taken from the Develop looks better (less noise, sharper), it's an error in Lightroom: Lightroom displays images in Develop with too much noise correction while watching them zoomed out. The Develop module is only accurate while watching at 1:1, 100% zoomed in. The Library module is more accurate.
I always zoom in to 1:1, do the noise reduction and sharpening, and then export. When I export to 1024 or lower (longest side), I put the output sharpening (in the Export module!) to Screen High. When I'm exporting to 2048, I put it on Screen, Standard. When I'm exporting to full size, I turn it off.

Another interesting point. I just realised that in "Develop", I get the sharpened and noise reduced image. But, in "library" - the image is flat an dull just like the export.

So, the export looks like the "library version".

The side by sides, are literally simply a screen shot of the export (.jpg - on the left) next to the Lightroom window in develop mode (right).

Oddly enough; I've just discovered that a full 100% scale .jpg export also has the same problem. If I "edit in Photoshop" and throw it across from light room, it also has the same problem.

The problem being, what I'm seeing in Lightroom (right) is not what I'm getting in export (left).

In other words; the image on the right is what I want to get exported.

Wow, that's really strange. Things look like a little sharper, but not better. Look at those jagged edges, those lines..
I would love to test it for you here too. Can you please upload the RAW file, or send it (WeTransfer) to info@hansvaneijsden.nl so I can experiment with it?

Ah and by the way, (I hope we're seeing the images at 100% in your screenshots): the image on the right, is that an export of an older Lightroom version? Or a different program?

OK. Updated to 5.4. Exported with 800px short edge. Same problem. No improvement at all.

Here's another side by side:



Note sharpening problem easily by paying attention to the tree in the far background, and the lead subject's hair. Not that noise reduction is lost completely.

For now, the result remains: not solved

To those of you that are trying to help me - thank you - I appreciate it sincerely. However, Lightroom 5.4 with Camera Raw 8.5 is still exporting without the adjustment.

Hey Hans. Thanks!

I feel like a fool. I just realised that at some point I disabled updates. No idea why!!

For fun, here's a side-by-side screen shot which illustrates the problem very clearly. :-)

Thanks for your help. Can't believe I didn't notice that.

I'll upgrade to 5.4 and try again...

Aaaaaaah! Lightroom 5.3!
Well, try Lightroom 5.4, this is what the Lightroom 5.4 change log says:
"Sharpening/Noise Reduction were applied inconsistently depending on crop and export image size."
Or wait, in less than 6 hours Adobe will announce "some" new software.