P: Stealing focus on launch

It seems like the newest Lightroom Classic also steals focus after importing photos. It's getting worse!

This is VERY annoying. A came here to post a similar complain. There is absolutely no need to steal the focus. Please fix it!

I just wanted to give some explanations about the why, I was not trying to excuse Adobe for this issue. However, the LUA choice is not something that can be changed. This implies some annoyances that are much worse than the currently discussed (and relatively minor) annoyance. For example, one could wonder why bugs that are older than 5 or 6 years are still there. There's a good chance that LUA is responsible for this because of the lack of the necessary features allowing effective debugging.

Of course Adobe are responsible for their choices but the users should be aware of what they can reasonably expect. After all these years, I'm now convinced that many of these old or recent annoyances will not be fixed until LR is rewritten from scratch. Which will probably never happen...

Agreed that Adobe are accountable for writing good programs whatever tools they use. 🙂

Even if the focus stealing is a side-effect of some LUA library, I would still hold Adobe responsible and accountable. They made the software, and they made the choice to use LUA, and whatever 3rd party libraries they imported.

To make an analogy: Dell doesn't produce their own LCD panels, but if one breaks, you would hold Dell responsible. You wouldn't go to Japan Display or Toshiba, the company that produced the panel.

Another one: you purchase a new kitchen and a year later the dishwasher gives in. Where do you go? To the kitchen builder of course! They made the choice to include that particular dishwasher, and they are responsible for the kitchen you paid them for.

Altough from a technical standpoint it might be interesting to know that LR was written in LUA, from a user's point of view I simply don't give a monkey's toss. I'm paying Adobe to make something that works well, not something that is written in some fancypants language.

I was interested to learn that PS and Lightroom are written in different languages. Patrick's point is probably that the programming teams differ, and a fix in one app does not help the other. And I had never heard much about LUA. It does seem odd to have chosen a scripting language for a compute-intensive purpose, and it might also explain why the Lightroom UI seems sluggish and a little unpredictable. The LUA calls are probably many layers away from native Windows calls. Perhaps the focus -stealing is a feature of some LUA library, and not directly Adobe's fault, who knows. I wonder what Bridge is written in? I used to use just PS, and only recently decided that it was time to bid farewell to Picasa as a photo organiser and browser. As a new user, I find the ecosystem of these three Adobe apps to be odd in the ways they overlap. I have not used Bridge much because it doesn't have face recognition. But it sounds like it may be faster and lighter than LR. 

> while competitors are making progress in this area. I'm not sure that Adobe are aware of this.

Adobe probably also knows that losslessly migrating from Lightroom to another similar tool, is not currently possible. Lossy migration is totally possible - so if you're ok with loosing some edits or adjustments, you can do it, but that's not lossless, and out of the question for many.

TBH what language a program is written in, is of pretty much least concern to the end-user. No amount of technical explanation will create any goodwill if the problem is irritating enough.

Who is going around merging topics into this? Clearly Adobe is aware of the problem. This is telling me they are willingly & knowingly not fixing it.

I guess real bugs don't impair the sales (if you can call it sales these days).

When Lightroom Classic is starting up, during the process, the application focuses itself at least 3 times. What happens due to this?
- The user clicks the application shortcut
- During the lengthily startup, the user may want to continue using another open application, (for example Bridge, Explorer, etc.)
- Lightroom aggressively focuses and maximizes itself. Even if the user clicks an focuses another application, Lightroom takes the focus back.

Please remove the focusing/maximizing code snippets from Lightroom Classic. Please study another application: when starting up, those doesn't force the focus.