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November 22, 2016

P: Stealing focus on launch

  • November 22, 2016
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When launching Lightroom 6.7 on Windows 7, it can take a little while to initiate and do it's thing (even loading from a fast SSD).

Normally that'd be fine as I just bring other programs to the foreground and continue with other tasks while it loads in the background. However, I count 3 times where Lightroom steals priority from whatever other program I have just to show me the next step in its loading process. Please make it stop or only do it at the very final step?

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Inspiring
July 24, 2019
One of the main differences between the PS and LR UIs is that they have not been written in the same programming language. The Lightroom UI is written in LUA which I have always considered a wrong choice. Anyway, LUA doesn't give as much control on the UI as C, C++ or whatever other more classical language. So, fixing the problem in PS doesn't t mean that this will be as easy in LR. This should be fixed anyway.
--Patrick
erichschlaikjer
Known Participant
July 24, 2019
Lightroom Classic on Windows 10 still steals focus several times on launch. Really bad form.
I just checked and Photoshop does not steal focus, so at least Adobe fixed that. (I just now read many old threads of complaint about that.)
Please fix Lightroom as well.
Known Participant
June 14, 2019
Every time they update the software it seems to take longer to load. I was trying to edit photos while it opened just now and five times it jumped to the Lightroom window.
Inspiring
May 26, 2019
> But I still feel dismayed that Adobe can't fix so many minor "faults" and shortcomings they have known about for many years

Yes. And that's really a mystery for me.  Most of these (not that) minor problems can be easily and quickly solved. So, the question is either "Are they able to fix these problems ? " OR "Do they actually care ?". Or both ?

I think that many code pieces are written by offshore developers and that there are now not much people that are really in control of this program. That's a first reason. Also, the use of LUA for many parts of the program probably makes tracking bugs rather difficult. I always wondered why they made such a questionable design decision. And finally, the subscription model encourages laziness.

Anyway, as I have already stated multiple times, code quality at Adobe is declining while competitors are making progress in this area. I'm not sure that Adobe are aware of this.
--Patrick
Participating Frequently
May 26, 2019
Don, many thanks for that workaround tip.

I haven't tried multiple desktops so I don't know how well they will play with my dual monitor setup with one desktop spread over both screens.

I'm not sure I like the idea of hiding one desktop behind another, having to keep track of what's where, I guess not such easy drag and drop from other apps, changing desktops to see if it has finished loading or completed other tasks and not being able to monitor the progress bar in the task bar when it is labouring over something like large imports or multi-image HDRs etc.

I'll certainly try multiple desktops, maybe I'll come to like them. But I still feel dismayed that Adobe can't fix so many minor "faults" and shortcomings they have known about for many years such as focus stealing and improved crop presets. Having to change our preferred way of working is not what Adobe promised.
Participating Frequently
May 21, 2019
No, it's not a question of doing it wrong.  I'm suggesting quite an easy workaround for not being able to do something else while LR is starting.  It's quite easy to have multiple desktops opened at the same time.  I have one dedicated to LR, another for Photoshop, another for a web browser, another for email, etc.  A swipe of the fingers on my mouse takes me from one window to another.  While I've been typing this LR was opening.  When I want to edit in Photoshop it automatically switches to the PS window.  Going back is just as easy.  

Using this system multiple apps are not stacked on one desktop; on the Mac they're side-by-side and switching is just a flick of the fingers.

When LR is opening it takes front and center on that desktop.  With multiple desktops open you don't have to worry about that.  Just go do something on a different desktop.  

I'm just hoping that this idea might be useful to those who want to do something else while LR is starting.
nico.kaiser
Known Participant
May 21, 2019
So basically you're saying we are starting it wrong?
Participating Frequently
May 21, 2019
It's very easy to use separate desktops in either Mac or Windows machines.  Open LR in its own window and then sweep to the window you're working on that takes less than a second.
Wurstkrapfen
Inspiring
May 20, 2019


Please stop focusing the app during startup, starting lightroom takes a while if there is a big catalog in the background. So most of the time I would like to prepare stuff while Lightroom is loading, but I cant because its constantly pushed as the foreground app.

This is completely useless since it can't do anything yet anyway, because its still loading.

Please stopp doing this, or at least only do it once, once its finished and  actually ready to receive user input.
nico.kaiser
Known Participant
February 23, 2019
Adobe seriously! It's about time! This makes me hate launching LR everyt time a bit more 😞