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December 10, 2014

P: Still inconsistent capture date/time for photos and videos

  • December 10, 2014
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Update 5/17/2018: Though LR 7.1 made improvements, LR 7.3.1 still has two closely related problems with a single underlying cause:

- With photos and videos missing metadata capture date/times (e.g. scans), there is still an inconsistency between the times shown under the thumbnails in grid view and in the Metadata panel and the hidden, internal times used for sorting in grid view.

- Changing IPTC Date Created in the Metadata panel, either by editing the field or using Metadata > Copy/Paste Metadata, similarly causes inconsistent values to be shown and sorting and searching to work inconsistently.  It also causes date metadata to be written back to the files that doesn't conform with the Metadata Working Group's standard.

The underlying cause is architectural: LR doesn't have a single internal catalog field representing "capture time".  Rather, it maintains capture time in several different fields, and the various parts of LR update those fields inconsistently.

See here for precise recipes to replicate these bugs:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-tim...

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-tim...

See here for a workaround: 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-still-inconsistent-capture-date-time-for-videos?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Breply_id%5D=15475521#reply_15475521.  

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LR 5.7 still shows inconsistent capture date/times for videos. For a test .avi on Windows 8.1, the date in grid view appears to be the file system's last-modified time, while Capture Date/Time is set to the time of import.This problem was declared fixed in LR 5.5, and it appears to have been fixed for images, but not videos:http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/inconsistent_dates_for_files_missing_date_time...I'm opening a new topic, since the previous one has been marked "Solved".

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    johnrellis
    johnrellisAuthor
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    March 14, 2015
    Fotografista wrote: "There is a workaround: you can make LR update the dates using the menu function 'Metadata/Edit capture time'. ... I am not going to do it manually for 1000 files."

    I haven't tried it recently, but in the past you could select all the videos, do Metadata > Edit Capture Time, and then hit OK without making any changes to the date/time. This would set the capture time correctly for each of the selected photos. So you wouldn't need to do it one video at a time.
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      FeedbackCommunityMember
      Inspiring
      March 13, 2015
      I imported >1000 videos from 2014, all got the "Creation date" set to "Import date" (for all my video-sources), although they could be split into the proper folders by date during the import, which means LR *CAN* properly interpret the dates, *BUT NOT* in the Library while sorting!

      This is total disaster, because I am not able get the files in the correct creation order to rename and store them properly, which *CRUCIAL* to work with the video clips!

      There is a *WORKAROUND*: you can make LR update the dates using the menu function "Metadata/Edit capture time".

      ... *BUT* - I am not going to do it manually for 1000 files. And after that *FOR EACH AND EVERY IMPORT*...

      This seams to be a simple *BUG* and I do not understand why it has not been fixed for years now as it is a *FUNDAMENTAL FUNCTIONALITY*.

      I would really appreciate to get a fix *SOON*. Or at least a better workaround. At the moment I'm *BLOCKED* in my workflow, and the material get produced more and more.

      I can support the developers with further details and examples.
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      Howard Heflin
      Known Participant
      December 14, 2014
      Thanks for keeping this issue "Open".
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      Beany from Brooklyn
      Known Participant
      December 13, 2014
      I find the behavior has changed BUT is still wrong.
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      FeedbackCommunityMember
      Inspiring
      December 13, 2014
      Yes, this is quite annoying for me. Because reverse capture date is my preferred sorting method in the grid, old videos I add are being shown before anything else, because LR5.7 is putting their capture date as the time of import.

      Here's a much less neater example than above (scribbled on my Surface):

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