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April 30, 2025

P: Some AI Mask Overlays do not appear (Win)

  • April 30, 2025
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Product: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom (Desktop/Cloud-based version)

Version: 8.3

Operating System: Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, OS build 26100.3915

Date: April 30, 2025

Issue Description:

Since updating to Lightroom Desktop version 8.3, I am experiencing an inconsistent issue where mask overlays for certain AI-generated masks fail to display on some images. This makes visually confirming or refining these specific AI selections difficult or impossible when the issue occurs.

Specifically:

  • Mask overlays for Select Background and Select People appear to work correctly and consistently display their overlays.
  • Mask overlays for Select Subject, Select SkySelect Objects, and the new Landscape Masking features are intermittently invisible. The overlay simply fails to appear on certain images for these mask types, while potentially working correctly on others.
  • When the overlay is invisible for these specific AI masks, the mask itself is generated (adjustments affect the correct area), but the visual feedback (overlay) is missing.
  • Overlays for manually created masks (Brush, Linear Gradient, Radial Gradient) consistently display correctly as expected IF a new mask is created with these, but adding a Brush, Linear Gradient, Radial Gradient does not show the color overlay on masks created with the above problematic mask types.
  • This inconsistent behavior began immediately following the update to version 8.3. Functionality was normal and consistent in the prior version on this same system.
  • This issue is not related to standard overlay visibility settings being incorrect (details below).

 

System Information:

  • CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12950HX
  • RAM: 64.0 GB
  • GPU: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU
  • GPU Driver Version (Latest Tested): R570 U4 (573.06) (Clean installed & tested: April 29, 2025)
  • System Type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

 

Troubleshooting Steps Performed (Exhaustive - All Failed to Resolve the Intermittent Issue):

The following steps have been systematically performed. The intermittent invisibility of overlays for Subject, Sky, Object, and Landscape AI masks persists:

  1. Standard Overlay Settings Verified Correct:
    • Confirmed "Show Overlay" checkbox in the Masking panel is ON.
    • Cycled through all available Overlay Modes using Shift+O.
    • Confirmed the main Mask Opacity slider is set sufficiently high (e.g., >50%).
    • Explicitly checked the nested Overlay Opacity setting via the ... menu > Color Overlay Settings > Opacity slider; confirmed it is set well above 0%.
    • Toggled overlay visibility off/on using the O key.
  2. GPU Configuration & Driver Verification:
    • Toggled the Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor setting through all states (Auto, Off, Custom/On explicitly enabled) followed by Lightroom restarts. The issue occurs regardless of GPU acceleration status.
    • Performed clean installations of NVIDIA GPU drivers. Tested thoroughly with driver version 572.76 and confirmed the issue persists even with the latest production driver R570 U4 (573.06) (released April 28, 2025), also installed cleanly.
  3. Lightroom Application Resets:
    • Performed a full Lightroom Preference Reset using the Alt+Shift key combination during launch and confirming the dialog prompt.
    • Manually located and reset the Lightroom AI Model Cache by renaming/deleting relevant folders (e.g., ModelZoo, CR_OCPS, ModelAssets within relevant %APPDATA%\Adobe\CameraRaw, %APPDATA%\Adobe\Lightroom, or %LOCALAPPDATA%\Adobe\Lightroom folders) to force a complete redownload of AI assets.
    • Performed a full uninstall and reinstall of Lightroom Desktop 8.3 via the Creative Cloud application, including associated component cleanup where possible.
  4. System Environment Isolation:
    • Created a brand new local Administrator user account on Windows. Logged into the new account, launched Lightroom, synced minimal data, and tested AI masking. The intermittent issue persists in the new user profile.
    • Reviewed running background processes and services; disabled non-essential software temporarily; no obvious conflicts identified.
    • Ensured the Operating System (Windows 11 Pro 24H2) is fully updated with all current patches.
    • Performed multiple system restarts throughout the troubleshooting process.
  5. Content Variance Test:
    • Tested the AI masking overlay issue across numerous different image files (various camera RAW formats, JPGs). The problem where overlays fail to show for Subject/Sky/Object/Landscape masks occurs intermittently, seemingly dependent on the specific image, but the exact trigger hasn't been identified. Background/People masks consistently work on the same images where others fail.

 

Context Regarding Related Issues:

The intermittent nature makes this difficult to reproduce reliably. I have seen a related (though different) report in the Community about AI mask overlays failing 'on hover' in Lightroom Desktop 8.3, potentially indicating broader instability with AI mask visualization in this version.

Impact:

This bug introduces unpredictability and significantly hinders workflow when using Subject, Sky, Object, or Landscape AI masks, as visual confirmation is unreliable. It forces extra steps or requires rolling back to a previous version to guarantee functionality.

 

Request to Adobe and Community:

  1. Is Adobe aware of this specific issue (intermittent invisibility of Subject/Sky/Object/Landscape AI mask overlays) in Lightroom Desktop 8.3? Is it under investigation?
  2. Are other users encountering this specific type of intermittent failure with these particular AI masks? If so, have any specific image characteristics or triggers been identified?
  3. Are there any known conflicts or alternative workarounds (beyond downgrading) that might address this inconsistency?

Any insights or official acknowledgement would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


34 replies

simonw7491262
Participant
May 21, 2025

I tend to use radial and linear gradients and this issue occurs with them, unlike Andy Baines experience. All masks are affected for, create the mask and then leave it or zoom in, the mask is no longer visible. 

The issue has been going on close to a month with no fix, are there are logs we can provide? Where would they be found if there are?

Known Participant
May 20, 2025

Hey Adobe, I've experienced this in several ways. With sky masks and object masks. The mask doesn't disappear immediately, it's when you go to edit with a brush or anything else. Here is how you reproduce it. Apply the sky mask, leave to the edit workspace and zoom in to desired amount (because you can't zoom in when masking and that is very dumb), go back to mask, create add or subtract brush, and somewhere around this point or once you start applying the brush, the mask overlay will disappear. 

If I had to guess, it has to do with the zoom. I was editing a sky mask earlier not zoomed in and the overlay stayed. The fact you cannot zoom in when masking might be why your dev team missed this if it is indeed caused by zooming in. Hope this gets fixed soon, it is a horrible bug. 

Known Participant
May 14, 2025

Hello there.

 

Just wanted to add an additional bit of info on this issue, in case it's of use. I believe that the sky mask is the most frequently affected - at least in my case. I can't recall overlays for brush masks and radial/linear gradients ever disappearing, and indeed they still show even after the sky mask overlay has disappeared. A colour range mask overlay once disappeared, but this happened just once, whereas the sky mask overlay now disappears every single time at one point or another. There doesn't appear to be any particular action that triggers the disappearance.

 

Not sure if that's any use, but thought I'd share just in case. 

 

Thanks,

 

Andy 

Participating Frequently
May 12, 2025

Same issue, Mac OS, Current OS, Current LR 8.3.1 - masking overlays 90% of the time never show up, extremely infuriating.

Known Participant
May 10, 2025

I am also having a similar issue to digitaltranc3. I just posted my own post on this issue a few minutes ago, as I hadn't seen this thread. One thing to add: in my case, it happens randomly/unexpectedly. I can be working on a mask for several minutes and then suddenly the overlay just disappears. It's hard to do a screen recording of this happening because it doesn't happen at a predictable moment - at least not in my case

Known Participant
May 10, 2025

Hi there, 

 

Apologies if this question is answered somewhere else - I had a look but couldn't find it. 

 

I created a colour range mask, and have since been adding to the mask, including subtracting the sky, using the select object tool, and adding some brushes. For at least the third time today (this has never happened before), the mask overlay has suddenly stopped showing despite the overlay tab being toggled to 'on'. 

 

I did not change the overlay settings, and have double-checked and the opacity is around 80%. This isn't to do with the brush tool opacity, either (I know similar problems are related to low flow and density, but I'm pretty sure this isn't relevant in this case). 

 

I tried toggling the overlay on and off, I tried restarting LR, and I tried disabling GPU acceleration and restarting. With the latter, I tried two methods: I turned acceleration back on as soon as I reopened LR, but this didn't work; and I also tried checking the overlay with the acceleration still turned off. It did appear to momentarily flicker on, but is now off (again, the overlay toggle is set to 'on). 

 

I'm out of ideas. I do admittedly not have the best laptop, but this problem has never happened before. Any guidance greatly appreciated. 

 

Lightroom version: 8.3.1 WAS x64 [ 20250505-2344-4fb7147 ] (May 5 2025)
NGL Version: 1.41.0.11
WF Version: 7.3 5f6f02e
VF Version: 1.0.154
HIL Version: 40501
CAI Version: c2pa-c/0.6.0 c2pa-rs/0.46.0
PH Version: 5.2

Operating system: Windows 11
OS Version: Windows 11 Home (2009)
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Computer model: HP HP Spectre x360 Convertible 13-aw0xxx / Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1035G4 CPU @ 1.10GHz
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 1.4 GHz
Real memory available to Lightroom: 7868.6 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1529.1 MB (19.4%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 2273.9 MB
Memory cache size: 1643.5 MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 17.3.1 [ 2227 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 687MB / 1886MB (36%)
Camera Raw real memory: 690MB / 7868MB (8%)

Display: 1920x1080
System DPI setting: 120 DPI
Graphics Processor Info: DirectX: Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics (27.20.100.9268)
Graphics Processor Detail: loaded: Yes, supported: Yes, compute: Yes, init: I3_GPU4, hard: success, soft: success, al: No, dl: No
OS Media Capability: true

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Andy

Participant
May 10, 2025

Bonjour , 

Je rencontre un problème depuis plusieurs jours avec l'affichage d'incrustation de masque dans LR sous Windows (non LRc) , j'ai beau activé l'affichage via le curseur ou appuyer sur la lettre O , rien ne se passe , l'incrustation du masque ne s'affiche pas sur l'image (me concernant ça devrait s'afficher en rouge) .

J'ai fait la mise à jour du logiciel avec la dernière version très récemment (Version Lightroom : 8.3.1 x64 (May 5 2025) , ma carte graphique est également à jour et j'ai vidé le dossier cache du logiciel .

Je précise aussi que le paramètre d'opacité d'incrustation est sur 50% (pas défaut) et j'ai tenté plusieurs fois de fermer/réouvir le logiciel et même de redematter le pc.

Auriez-vous une idée ou une piste pour résoudre ce pb ? car difficile de travailler correctement sur un masque donné quand on n'arrive pas à le situer avec précision . Merci .

 

 

Participating Frequently
May 10, 2025

Forgot to add specs:

 

Edition Windows 11 Home
Version 24H2
Installed on ‎10/‎18/‎2024
OS build 26100.3915

Device: Dell XPS 15 7590
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9980HK CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)
Internal Graphics: Intel UHD 630 (Shared memory)
Dedicated Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 (4GB dedicated memory)

Participating Frequently
May 10, 2025

Also experience the same issue.

 

Screen Recording 2025-05-09 193232.mp4

Participant
May 9, 2025

I'm having the exact same issue. It started about 3 days ago. I'm using Cloud Based Lr V8.3.1. I previously would right click on an image and click the "Overlays" option at the bottom of the pop-up menu. Now that option has been replaced with "Enhancements"... which I don't need.

 

I know it's not a brand new computer, but I haven't had any Lr issues until a few days ago when this started.

 

Here are the specs for the computer I'm using.

 

Windows 10 Home
Version 2009
Installed on ‎9/‎18/‎2021
OS Build 19045.5737

Device Name LEGION
Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz 2.30 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
Storage 477 GB SSD SKHynix_HFS512GDE9X084N
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU (4 GB), Intel(R) UHD Graphics (128 MB)
System Type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor