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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Known Participant
September 18, 2023

Not bad for a very quick subject selection, reverse selection and the prompt "Inside a space craft, photorealistic". Obviusly, I could have worked with the masking to clean it up, but this was 15 seconds.

Known Participant
September 18, 2023

Here's a result I just did. Fully nude model. 2 seperate generative fills. 1 prompt was Orange bikin bottom, the next Orange bikini top. No errors or morality police anywhere to be found. Not an actual project, so I didn't complete the blending.

 

Known Participant
September 18, 2023

I should have mentioned that these were done with the latest 25.1 beta, not the 25.0 production.

Known Participant
September 18, 2023

This is one of my images where the model is naked, so I thought I would try what 3Hounds was trying.  I tried the obvious things (bikini, bandau top, bodice) and got errors, but then I started trying non-obvious things.  I got all three of these alternatives with the prompt, "chain mail".  I also got some more consistent results by being less specific, "swimsuit" or "add top" for example (see below).

 

 

Here is the best example from "Swimsuit":

 

Here is the best from "add top":

 

This image shows my selection for all above images.  I had selected only the area in question and I wasn't very precise about it.  :

 

 

Since I was just playing I used a fairly low-res image, but it is one that I own.  

The weirdest thing is that except for "chain mail" and "swimsuit" it only gave me one image per Generate, not three like most prompts.  It makes me wonder if the second generated image didn't throw the error, but instead of displaying the error for me it only stopped generating options.  So, most of these (and several total failures) happened one at a time.  It makes me wonder if they are only showing the error if the first image is bad, and they could continue to generate the second and third images?

Participating Frequently
September 18, 2023
I see. I don't recall mentioning that they had a policy to do it, just that it does it. Thanks for the clarification, but in this instance my point was that *when*  it does it , it seems that we will be charged for it despite a bug being responsible. Myth or not, I can't see how it's moral or sensible for us to pay when the software isn't up to the job. I'm hoping for clarification on the topic, but honestly doubt that I'll get it.
daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 18, 2023

The "myth" I believe Kevin was referrring to was that GF guideline violations are somehow related to women, female skin, nudity, etc. As I menteioned in anothe post, I've often put clothing (swim tops and bottoms, for example) on nude models to make them acceptable for Facebook. So if you want to talk about nudity issues, take it up with Zuckerberg. 🙂

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Inspiring
September 18, 2023

It can take me many, many prompts to get something I like. For instance, if I want to change the background to something specific like a "city scene",  I will do that over and over, sometimes modifying the prompt to get closer to what I want. It's not like just putting in a prompt and being satisfied with the first results. That is rare. If no text prompt is entered, then it is almost always an error. I have to remember to at least add a "." period to get it to begin to work. If there is any flesh, I will need to invert the image, prompt, and then invert back to see the results. My use of credits will be over after only a few days. Credits ignores the actual process of artistic creation. Both the beta version,  Firefly and the updated Photoshop 2024 have errors, subpar results, ludicrouse creations, etc. It takes real commitment to get something extraordinary, which to my delight and surprise is possible.

Participating Frequently
September 18, 2023
Kevin,
I have personal experience of spending ages stating "girl" and getting women along with violation errors when trying it. I've had multiple violation errors with "bikini" to the point where I gave up. I could add whelk, weed, grass, clam, rock and God knows how many other words that have generated violation errors too.

My entire post was based on MY experience. I asked for a night sky and got half a woman's head!. Please don't tell me I'm talking rubbish, even unintentionally. It's far from professional to tell a beta tester, giving honest feedback, that they are talking crap.

I genuinely want to know whether I'm going to be charged credits every time Photoshop gets it wrong like this .
Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 18, 2023

@MontyWales You'll need to brush up on what is available and what isn't. Tardis and Doctor Who are copyritghted entities and would not be available in Gen Fill or Firefly. Try entering "police call box" or "british phone booth"

 

Known Participant
September 18, 2023

I assume you mean the anecdotal evidence that some people (3Hounds, for example) have been able to modify pictures with nudity, but I'm not sure we've proven that their success isn't yet another bug.  Clearly this problem exists outside of modifying nude pictures and I have seen the error when doing completely innocuous editing, but the fact that the feature exists to disallow some image editing is not in doubt.  The only question is which of us are going to be inconvenienced by Adobe pre-deciding what is appropriate and what is not.