P: Generated images violate user guidelines

My rior comment was removed for being to abrasive, but more than likely it told the truth. So let me be clear as day, Generative Credits is a horrendous, exploitative and greedy implementation. This is a buisness tactic akin to loot boxes and battle passes in game industry. The fact is that we already pay for generative fill with our adobe cloud subscriptions. Generative fills development could not have existed without the reliance on adobe customers and yet this is how we are rewarded. The idea that you should pay more for so called "perks" that should already be gaurenteed, expecially in a global recession, is absurd and unacceptable. 

One beneficial thing that Midjourney finally got around to doing is generating four full-sized examples, so that chosing the versions you like don't have to spend minutes upscaling the the ones selected. In fact, if one wanted to put in the extra time, the four results can be copied and pasted into Photoshop and cropped, saving a few more seconds of valuable minutes.

The way I've seen other companies do this is that they only charge you credits when you upscale or remove watermarks from an image. That could be something to look at. That way, you don't burn credits trying to get hands to look right, but only use credits once you decide to actually use the result that's produced. Although, I have to say, Midjourney doesn't do this and they just have a paid version for the number of generations you want created at a time. An easier system, imo 

Well there's certainly a lot that still needs to be worked out. I'm still confused how this credit stuff will work within Photoshop itself, as opposed to working specifically with Firefly. I don't have a lot of experience with AI outside of Midjourney and purchased minutes can get used up pretty quickly when one is trying to generate something fairly specific. I'm asumming that one would not be charged for inaccurate or even purposeful violation errors, as no results are generated in any case. Or at least we aren't given access to them. I'm sure adjustmments will be made going forward as things progress.

Never the less, I applaud Adobe for being what I believe is the first to make sure creators are compensated for their work. And I think the technology will trickle down to other AI platforms, though that will most likely have to take place through the court system if other platforms don't do so voluntarily.

The problem with providing limited credits (in effect charging for the service on a metered basis) is that the technology, while very good, is still less than 50% accurate.  Meaning, that multiple generations usually have to be made just to sort through the errors, thus burning credits because of error.  Additionally, many credits will be used only to receive "policy violation" notices and no image.  The aspect of receiving violation notices indicates in a way that the technology service is not really a professional tool.  Because I appreciate the technology advances, I would be willing to pay more in a fixed rate but the aspect of limited credits is very troublesome.  

Well...this is probably a bad example, but couldn't the dealer I bought my car from three years ago pay to have it fixed from the profit they made when they sold me the car originally? Business doesn't work that way. Well...it does to a point. They might throw in a a couple of free oil changes, not to mention a warranty for the first few thousand miles. But they can't provide such additional services forever. And, if I read the the terms and conditions correctly, moderate use of Generative Fill will potentially still be free given the monthly credits involved. I assume that means receiving more credits if one has purchased the entire Creative Suite compared to the Photoshop package alone.

Couldn't source material providers be paid from the money we are already paying to Adobe to use the software?

@defaultyfp7chz9kt23 please abide by the forum rules. First warning.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community-discussions/adobe-support-community-guidelines/td-p/4788157

When I get six-fingered people, I just say to them, "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Where else can you use AI without paying for it?

By @daniellei4510  

Stable Diffusion. Along with open source plugins for Stable Diffusion inside Photoshop.

There are other ways to get money for the photo submitters without credits. Put ads at the bottom of the GF window.