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P: Generated images violate user guidelines

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May 23, 2023
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So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Graham24508943nobd

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I don't find it slow, but it's far worse at removing objects and adding objects that just aren't anything if you know what I mean ? I asked for a patio and it added some gawdawful monstrosity that would NOT move even after deleting the layer. I had to scrub the project I was working on

xandrwrld

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It appears that the word "symmetrical" is a prompt that violates the guidelines. I am simply trying to put in a set of steps into this image, but that keyword seems to flag it every time. This has been happening a lot recently with benign, simple things that do not go against anything in the guidelines. I think it's time for a review of the PSGF's censorship algorithm.

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Encartauk

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But can you select specific areas with a selection tool in those program's images and make amendments? Or do you have to use a text prompt to tell them where to make the change, and it has to correctly identify that area e.g. a left arm, or right ear, floor?

matiasrengel

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as you can see in the image I am trying to fill in where there was a Microphone and it just doesn't want to.

Graham24508943nobd

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I've tried a few including mid journey and stable diffusion. Mid journey humans are far better, but, IMO adobe AI generated one have a far more natural look. Even stable diffusion have some terribly distorted limbs & faces.

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Encartauk

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I've not used any other AI art 'generators' apart from trying a few free web-based ones and Bing AI chat. I have seen results in other programs like Stable Diffusion and questioned the quality of PS results myself - but I was thinking, do any of those other programs allow users to select areas of images and generate areas based off text prompts and/or just AI's assessment if left blank?

I assumed that in the others that if the user wants to change things they have to do it all by text prompts without selecting certain areas that they want modifying first e.g. 'move right arm above head, change dress to red, replace shoes with sneakers' etc.

Also, do any of them allow to work in layers where you can mix things up and then chop and change easily during the process? And/or incorporate your own images, real or AI?

So, I'm not stanning for Adobe here, but coming from a place myself where I've realised that Adobe and PS may have a unique tool here - but I could be wrong, which is why I'm asking.

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Gaspar30

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I can not remember a time in the last 5 years that I was more frustarted than I have been in the last few weeks trying to use the Generative Fill tool in Photoshop. Every second thing I try gives the "violates terms and conditions" message when I can easily do the exact same prompts and keywords in other platforms (for example MidJourney). Here are a couple of examples:

1. I have a young family friend who loves all things military and army related so I was doing up a cool poster of him dressed in military uniform with a cool epic battle scene behind him (rubble, military tanks, explosions, etc.) In the end I gave up and just put him against a bunch of trees in the background because I was ready to pull my hair out with (cursing removed) Photoshop!!! Every single word I tried was banned (tank,military, historical military vehicles, war scene, etc.)

2. I was making a funny photo, sort of like a meme, with 2 groups of teachers fighting in a classroom (like a battle scene) and every (cursing removed) prompt I tried failed, even things like (destruction, hole in wall, fire, explosion, damaged building, etc.)

Adobe, for the love!!! get your stupid act together and figure out how to moderate prompts properly!!! AARGGGHHH! When MidJourney thinks you've prompted something inapporpriate it actually lets you send the prompt to 2nd tier moderation bot and further checks it for problems. 95% of the time the prompt then gets through with no further problems.

SOOOO FRUSTRATED! 😞

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Jiri31574162k5gw

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I am under the impression that the generative filler feature is only for children between the ages of 4 and 12. I really don't understand this completely nonsensical restriction by Adobe. I have experienced that sometimes just typing a dot instead of a prompt will generate the fill.

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zvi_t

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Prompt "3+1=4 written in the sand" violated user guidelines. I'm so sorry Adobe, I didn't see anywhere in the guidelines that we can't generate letters in sand.

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J-D-F

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add a "." to fix it! Or better yet, use a different Ai. Adobe is desperately trying to get ahead of the curve and has started too late. Even if they fail to be decent at creating a photography ai tool, they will still charge the same amount of money. They don't listen to complaints particularly well and rely on Adobe Stans to defend them in support groups. Bugs, broken tools and crashy releases for months or years have become the norm.

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Jarosław31803479xwxc

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Genereally, AI in Photoshop Beta is ok, but only sometimes and only for some type of users. For fine art nude photographers it is completely useless and iritating. Edward Weston, Alfred Stieglietz, Bill Brandt and a crowd of other fine art nude masters, whose work appears on the first page of any textbook for freshmen at any art acadamy, would never had a chance to use this feature - as they would violate Adobe's user guidelines.