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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Participant
August 3, 2023

@CShubert 

I think the real problem is all those guidelines are not good for customers and sometimes they are discriminative.

chubby and fat for example violate the guidelines, a fat person is against guidelines? fat belly is a like a combo of guidelines violations...
In what world "Belly" is against some guideline?? we can do it manually with liquify etc, why not making it easier with ai?

Why all anatomic names are forbidden? belly? belly button? really? i can't add a belly button, but i have to hope generative Ai will produce one random using other prompts? and this is for almost all anatomic parts: breasts(not adult industry people don't have breasts?), torso, chest, abdomen... 

 

i think you should focus on generative results quality instead of banning all the words in the world.

 

Participant
August 3, 2023

About the quality and deformity problems, there are solutions (yes i would prefer better automatic generation too), you need precision and a little time but at least you can work on it.


1 Make sure selection (also working on entire backgrounds etc) is quite precise.

2 Make selection "bleed" some pixels inside the object around, for example, if you want to convert a long sleeve tshirt in a short one, select all the arm, make an expand selection over borders of few pixels (usually high res photos 15px is enough, low res even 5 pixels), and make sure that a little skin from the hand is selected, try with prompts like "skin" "short sleeve" etc.

3 Sometimes you have to work in pieces, cause AI doesn't accomplish in its randomness. Using the example above you have to divide the arm in pieces, starting from the hand, cause the AI often takes what it has around, so if you start from the hand, taking skin, and replicate for every piece, at the end you should have a complete arm with short sleeve, if you have some differences in skin, now that is all skin you can select the strange stains (don't forget to bleed pixels in good skin) and put "skin" or "." as prompts and try.

4 for some things you have to make a particular selection, for example an hand with a baseball bat, you have to contour the hand, give the selection a shape similar (but rounded) to that of a hand with a baseball bat, than add a selection of a shape similar to a baseball bat (it can also be a rectangle or elliptic, but it should contain a baseball bat), if it doesn't work at first shot, replicate steps above.

5 sometimes you have to work with pieces of copy and paste, for example you are working on an hand, 3 fingers are good, 2 deformed, take the 3 good ones, copy (copy also what is around, like space between etc) and paste on the original, merge levels, now you have an hand with 3 good fingers and the old one merged, select the rest of the old hand, make sure selection includes some pixels of the good part, and generate again.

think that most important problem now is guidelines

 

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 3, 2023

True enough. I often get the feeling that the people complaining most about Gen Fill have little or no prior experience with text to image AI. It's just something that's inherent in the majority of AI platforms. 

Adobe Community Expert | If you aren't submitting your assets in sRGB, you probably didn't read the rules.
Sef McCullough
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 3, 2023

The user-reported solution for entering a period (.) in the generate dialog is not workgin for me fyi. Still can't get around the vilation error. I haven't been noticing any kind of gender bias though, just that if I'm trying to generate (well, remove actually - GF is my go-to magical weapon for scene cleanup/declutter) anything that is close to the color of human skin it throws the error.

Gen Fill was working so beautifully just a short time ago! I rest assured it'll be back to full operation soon, we need to all give respect to our fantastic Photoshop team, they are very responsive. And they move like *cats*!

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 2, 2023

I was trying Stable diffusion just now and some of the human figures generated there were just as hideous as what we're getting on here

Participating Frequently
August 2, 2023

PS 25.0.0

MacOS 13.4.1

Gen Fill is stubbling over non-offensive objects

Participating Frequently
August 2, 2023

I should mention that the image in question was a blemish on a map. I am checking the map over for scan issues, scan lines, overly large spots, etc.

PixelDreamer
Inspiring
August 2, 2023

Yes. Sadly, we can say that Adobe's algorithm is not working as we all expected. There are times when even the simple act of replacing a missing hand or foot is impossible. It's really very random and very bizarre and, frankly, very annoying. On top of that, 90% of the time the faces, arms, hands, and legs are completely out of proportion or completely twisted. It's like a nightmare vision or like modeling clay. It's very weird and kind of disturbing. Hahaha!

Participating Frequently
August 1, 2023

Lol, yeah it scares me sometimes when a randed unexpected humanoid (we shall call them that for the time being) appears in my generation. 

 

What is good is you can copy and paste elements into pictures and then generate the edges to make them look seamless. That actually works well when you use the period trick. 

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 1, 2023

I've been saying the same thing since the last update, it's been dreadful and MUCH MUCH worse. Loads of colourbleeding, poor removals and hideous generations

Participating Frequently
August 1, 2023

@daniellei4510  Understatement! Meanwhile Midjourney can do this, to the point of challenging the uncanny valley.