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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 21, 2023

Hi @Preston29196145tevi level set - you do realize you are voluntarily participating in a beta test phase for software correct? Constructive dialog is always welcome and helps move the progress forward. The software will get better but understand this is the first instance of Generative Fill AI in Photoshop. There is going to be growing pains. But also if this impedes workflow so much (keeping in mind this is only to be used for non-commercial work) - you always have the option to stop testing and move to the general public release to do your work. No one is blowing off replies in here and the team is monitoring.

 

The blank issue has been noted so much in this and other threads that at this point I would personally consider it user error if someone posts "I left it blank and it gave me an error" without reading the thread they are posting on.

 

I'm certain this and other errors will be addressed well before this is finally released to the public in a new version of PS. But at this point hammering the same issue over and over in a rant does nothing to help.

Known Participant
July 22, 2023

Hi there,

Editing a very crowded wedding. Found it impossible to get unobstructed photos of guests, so have been using Lightroom's remove tool where possible then flipping the image to PS Beta to do the rest. 

I am getting incredibly frustrated with Generative Fill, On 70% or more of the attempts I've made I get the 'violates guidelines' error. I get that when trying to remove people's heads which are right in the lower center of the frame like this one. This is cropped to about 20% of the frame. 

 

The policy doesn't really explain to me why it is a cardinal sin to remove an out of focus, overexposed face from a photo. I mean GF works great when it does but in cases like this I have to find other photos of tables with similar content and composite the image.

 

I think it's time for Adobe to have a tune up chat with Cardinal Dontletemdoit. He is far too conservative in making a sin out of doing this. I'm almost to the point of not even trying to use GF because it literally won't let me remove a spooky hand reaching into the frame and touching someone's shoulder.

 

Clone stamp, Spot Healing, Content Aware Fill etc. all work on those things and I absolutely do not understand what the problem is with Generative Fill. Is this just something they want to show off but don't really want us to use?

 

On that image I used Content Aware fill, which obliterated the head then I deselected all but that layer and ran GF after selecting the messed up area. 

Despite the fact that there are now no heads or body parts or Nuclear Codes ,,,I still got the same message:

 

This is completely NUTS!

 

Participating Frequently
July 21, 2023

Hi Kevin,

 

Sorry for being blunt, I will try to channel that into more constructive dialog.  You have to understand how maddening it can get trying to work with Gen Fill at this point.  Last night 100% of the time if I selected something and left it blank it wouldn't render.  That is unaccepatble.  My tone is always very direct though and I feel the need to be so with the response.  The point of all of this is to use it and not have a ridiculous thing impede workflow.  I can appreciate that things worked for you but it doesn't work for me.  The larger point is that somehting is broken in the Gen Fill code that is causing really bad amateur type errors.  Please look at this through the end users eyes.  Why does it most of the time if I leave it blank, give me guidlines window?  It shouldn't do that even in beta software.  I hope you guys are taking it seriously and not just going,"Well, it worked for me so it isn't a problem."

Participating Frequently
July 21, 2023

Ooops, spoke too soon.  Literally my first render upon opening the project.  Left it blank and selected a tusk and got the window

Gonna be a long day....

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 21, 2023

Hi @Preston29196145tevi first - please keep things civil.

Second, as with any AI there is going to be a learning curve for users to write effective prompts that can give you the best results.

In your first examples, as documented heavily in here - leaving a prompt blank leads to false violations.

I took that example and entered "smooth skin" I did not get a violation and had some good results - no violations.

 

In your second post it's most likely in your case it is the word "henna" - the Generative Fill AI is using English only words at this time. I was able to take your example and create a result with "ornate gold tattoo" and again got results with no violations.

 

Keep in mind if you find this process so frustrating to the point of ranting on a forum, perhaps take a break and don't participate in a beta test for a bit.

Participating Frequently
July 21, 2023

Just wanted to add that 24.7 is working a little better, I made it half way through an image with no red flags on leaving prompt blank.  It was like heaven :). They still came back but it wasn't waterboarding and they all resolved themselves pretty easy

Inspiring
July 21, 2023

Updated to 24.7 and ran generative fill again on an image that was causing the error. The error returned, but the fill was completed. Thank you Adobe.

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 21, 2023

@georger2369527 this has been well documented in here that leaving the prompt blank is a known issue that can cause false flags. Adding even a period to the prompt improves results.

Inspiring
July 21, 2023

It appears that this might be a bug, rather than a "violation".  Restarting PS enables generation without error.

 

But even simpler, is typing a fullstop/period ( . ) in the 'What would you like to generate' box.  Voila!  No error message.

Participating Frequently
July 21, 2023

Here we go again, wasting users time.  For the love of God when are you going to fix this?  Seriously, I wonder if Wired Magazine would be interested in a story about your debacle

 

Known Participant
July 22, 2023

Use Any One Latter in Prompt Like . Dot and Generate... Thats Problem Solve

georger2369527
Participant
July 21, 2023

I keep getting the guidelines violations warning when i try to use generative fill (without a prompt) even though i'm only working on a picture of a piece of fabric