P: Alt key shorcut, menu activating and beeping

Mouse scrolling and clicking is now disabling menu focus. That's good. Thanks 🙂

found a topic related to this CC2018 problem: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/alt-backspace-taking-two-hits-to-work-cc-2018...

I have this (or something similar) in the newest PS CC2018 on Win10.

In PS CC2017 alt-hotkeys work just fine, but in CC2018:
- if I use hotkeys that have ctrl and alt and press-and-hold alt a little bit faster than ctrl, the hotkey doesn't work (example: alt+ctrl+i for image size), if I first press ctrl, hotkey fires as it should;
- hotkeys with alt (and alt+shift) first do system BEEP and then execute on the second press. Examples: alt+backspace (fill with foreground color), any blending mode switching hotkey (alt+shift+o for overlay, alt+shift+n for normal, etc);
- AHK remapped keys that use shortcuts with alt (!) stopped working.

I tried: 
- disable all 3rd party extensions and utilities;
- use AHK to disable alt-menu (https://superuser.com/questions/1086805/windows-10-how-to-disable-menu-bar-toggle-by-pressing-alt)

Could you please check this?
Thanks,
Sergey.

*chuckle*

Loved the post, snark and all.  These bugs have NOT been forgotten.  That's all I can say.

Have a good weekend,
David

Lisa. Lisa.

As I mentioned earlier this program is generally okay but I've seen it wig out like a mofo on multiple machines. Sure it'll work for a while. Days, months,  maybe years. Then one day Millionart's little app will somehow spark sentience. Our man Jeff Goldblum wasn't messing around in the hit 1993 film Jurassic Park when he taught Dr. Grant and America at large that life finds a way. Sure, in Independence Day he taught us that he doesn't grasp how computer programs work any better than Bill Pullman grasps how to be play a president, but that's beside the point. APssistant becomes a virus that must feed, replicating faster than Osmosis Jones on penicillin and munching through ram with more zeal than Teddy Bear the porcupine when he munches on his pumpkins.  No joke, Jaroslav's pseudo-DDOS attack idea in the comment above will look like Foster Home for Imaginary Friends compared to what'll be left of your task manager once APssistant has finished ravaging it.

I've also elected to spend my evening typing comments like this in Photoshop Family Community rather than doing literally anything else, so take my word with a grain of salt.

Forever Adobe's David's-- our software god dutifully watching down on us Official Rep, our provider, and our sword in the darkness
Ashe Lewis~

Gentlemen, gentlewomen, and gentlepeople--

I've also conditioned myself to double tap ALT as a workaround, but it's not 100% consistent. I'm colorblind  so I've made the eyedropper a core tool of my workflow, probably using it 10 or so times a minute. You could throw a quip like "Hey Ashe, maybe working in UI, digital painting, or really any field that focuses around color wasn't the brightest idea if you're severely red-green deficient." and my response would be "Well, crap. They don't give refunds for undergraduate degrees.".

So here I am.

Sometimes pressing ALT + "whatever" will make the underlines go away, but other times they don't. I normally can feel out when those situations are coming, but am sometimes caught off-guard. Otherwise double-tapping alt works ~97%-98% of the time, but that small percentage left over is noticeably frustrating. It might be keyboard latency, might be the combination of keys I press, maybe one in 200 times I don't tap my pen cleanly when I use the eyedropper tool, or it might be  something else entirely.  I never find myself intentionally using accelerator keys so I personally have no reason to keep them around. As someone said before, it's a requirement to include accelerator functionality in all programs, but I'd be a monkey's uncle/legal guardian if I  didn't think an optional toggle were a killer idea.

Alternatively, AP Assistant worked well enough for me for years with few problems. Unfortunately back in '15 it started bugging out heavily on both of my home computers. When opened, AP Assistant's process would immediately duplicate itself at a faster rate than I could delete it. Eventually the little parasite-booger of a program would eat all of my ram and crash my PC. I could try it again since our IT department dragged all the artists kicking and whining over to  Windows 10, but I don't think "Hey _____,  you know that problem you had on Windows 7? Windows 10 fixed it!" is a combination of words that make functional sense in the English language. I ran it through Urban Dictionary but they seem convinced that Windows 10 is either malware or a 'nice guy' pickup maneuver that involves nagging a woman repeatedly to 'upgrade her system'. Guess the jury's out on that one.

Anyway, I'm sure David has put in a bug report and the Adobe team has decided there are more pressing issues to work on, but maybe my words calling into the white and blue void will ignite a seed of fiery passion through which David can rally his Adobe bannermen to heed our cause. As long as grass grows green or maybe brown, as long as the Fremont bridge has a dirty brown or maybe green troll sculpture under it, as long as I renew my Photoshop CC subscription, I will have faith in David. 

Adobe's  David's and nobody else's,
Ashe Lewis (Art Generalist at some tech company)

Hey guys, I found this small tool on deviantart and it worked well for me. I have win10 64bit and Photoshop CC2015.5. Download from Deviantart: https://millionart.deviantart.com/art/Adobe-Photoshop-assistant-160950828 or Github https://millionart.github.io/Apssistant/

I have Idea... we could create program which will send comment "Oh crap" into this thread instead playing beeping menu sound 😄

Can we detect which program require file with beeping sound? We would set unique file for this event.

I guess we could overload server and database 😄

I think you are missing the point, you can respect the "Americans with Disabilities Act" while fixing the issue, let me explain.

When you press ALT you get the accelerator keys, so perfect boom, you are fully into the "Americans with Disabilities Act".

The problem arises with the implementation when you activate the ALT menu and then press a key that isn't in the menu, let's say for example the x key, it's annoying because you get the beep sound each time you press x, the problem is that ALT gets stuck until you press it again or press ESC or click somewhere else.

For example try the same with Notepad (I use Windows 10), what is their implementation? You activate the ALT menu and get the accelerator keys, then press a letter that is not in the menu like x and what happens? The first time you press x you get the beep but right after that, if you press x again the ALT menu gets disabled and the focus is restored to your active window and can start typing again.

This is a much better way of implementing ALT accelerator keys and you don't annoy your users with a stuck ALT menu and beeps.

For people still having this issue after so many years (my post is from 5 years ago!). I have found a nice workaround without having to install anything, just configure Windows as I say...

Right click the "sound" icon in your Notifications Area (or Taskbar), Click on "Sounds", in the sounds Tab find "Default Beep", in the "Sounds:" dropdown, right at the top select "(None)" and click "Ok".

That should disable that beep alert in Windows and therefore PS too, it also disables the annoying beep you get everytime you change the volume so two birds one stone. 🙂