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May 21, 2012

P: Move tool targeting imprecise

  • May 21, 2012
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Move Tool annoyance in Photoshop CS6.
I use the move tool alot in my work, with high fidelity mockups for interface design. I rely on precision and predictability in my workflow. In Photoshop CS6 with the move tool set to auto-select layer, i would suspect the move tool to select the excact element im targeting at which it doesn't. it automatically selects nearby elements, which is a HUGE annoyance and disturbance. It ruins the workflow, and it's unpredicable.

Is there at least an option to remove this behaviour and just make it precise as in previous versions of photoshop?

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Inspiring
November 20, 2013
Have to send it via email... didn't work in the browser for some odd reason.
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2013
Ah my bad - I originally said "un-selectable at 100%" but I realize that was ambiguous as to whether it referred to opacity or zoom. Waiting for your video to load...
Inspiring
November 20, 2013
You made no mention of it happening at that view.... However...even as far back as PS 5 it still had the same issue at 100% view... see video.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r02eahgu0yo...
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2013
My first post here already explains that changing that small triangular vector to 100% opacity / 100% fill makes no difference with the difficulty of selection. I tried again to be sure but it does not matter in my case what the targeted layer's opacity/fill is.

Secondly, your video shows the document zoomed up several times from 100%. At 100% and even at 150%, I cannot select it. If I zoom in to 300% or more, I have no difficulty selecting that layer.

The issue here is that at 100% zoom, the object that is selected with the V tool does not match the object I am targeting under the tip of the mouse cursor.

Before CS6, as long as I was accurately hovering the cursor over the pixels of the layer I wanted to select, it would select, at 100% document zoom, which is what my example video and issue was recorded at.
Inspiring
November 20, 2013
That little piece of vector is set to 50% ... but it should still work. See vid...

However, as I said previously 50% density, layer opacity etc can cause it to select the nearest solid object/pixel.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2bhdaa0qve...
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2013
Magic Mouse - on my coworker's computer, too. Video is ready now!
Inspiring
November 20, 2013
Will do. Are you using a Wacom tablet? Wacom Pen? Wacom Mouse? or a third party input device?
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2013
Chris - thanks for the explanation on targeting around currently selected transform controls. That does ring true as to how I always experienced them (a large transform buffer around currently selected transforming layers), but that is not the trouble I am experiencing.

Even with transform controls off, and completely deselecting all neighboring layer objects, I am still unable to target that small element.

Please check back in about 40 minutes to see this short screen recording: https://vimeo.com/79908370
Inspiring
November 20, 2013
The only way that I have been able to reproduce this is with the option to Show Transform Controls turned on. With it on it selects what I am targeting and leaves it in Transform mode... which means that selecting something adjacent to it, even within 10 pixels, makes it impossible to select because its expecting to do a transform on the previously selected pixel area. I can select something else OUTSIDE of the transform area with no problem.
Turning off the Show Transform Controls allows me to select anything regardless of how close or how far away the object is.
I'm not saying that this is the issue that you are experiencing but
PS has always worked this way with the settings that you sent to me.

Try unchecking the setting and see if it clears up your problem. I realize that its beneficial to have the setting selected for designing purposes as transforming is convenient. But if you aren't doing a lot of transforms then turning of the Transform Controls makes sense.
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2013
-- Just checked on a coworker's machine (OS X 10.7, with Photoshop CS6) and experience the same issue.