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June 19, 2015

P: Pathfinder handling with keyboard keys (previously available)

  • June 19, 2015
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Simple issue: you create a vector shape, and then another one in the same layer, and you want to subtract the latter from the first. There's a "mouse" way to do it (on the "Path operations" button on the top), and there used to be a "keyboard" way to do it, with the +/- keys on the numpad. I used it all the time, it was very handy.

Since Photoshop CC 2015, it doesn't exist anymore, and it's very annoying. Please, Adobe, put it back! Thanks!

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33 replies

July 9, 2015
I have this problem with Photoshop CC 2015 too. I'm using a Wacom Intuos 5 tablet on a Mac. I had to revert back to the 2014 version — yes, it's that crippling when you mask images all day long. The problem does not occur under Photoshop CC 2014, even with the Wacom tablet.
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July 6, 2015
I have the same, problem on Mac OS X Yosemite, french keyboard.
I use the +/- keys all the time and now this is terrible to not be able to change operations on shapes with them..
I don't want to change the language of my keyboard or my system, i just want to use a feature that was working perfectly fine before..
Thanks for fixing this quickly
David Mohr
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June 23, 2015
Hi Jérémy,

I think I understand now.  

I just compared CC 2014 and CC 2015 on both Windows and Mac.  The functionality is unchanged, but the update of the icon in the Options Bar and the Properties panel lags -- it shows the last tool used rather than the current one.  This issue is logged.

Thanks,
David
MonoqleAuthor
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June 23, 2015
Oh, not at all actually! The numpad buttons were working just fine for union/subtract paths on CC 2014, which was great, and now the behavior has changed under CC 2015. Let me explain that exhaustively:

With Photoshop CC 2015, when you draw one rectangle, and then a second over it, and stay with the rectangle tool, when you hit + or - with the numpad (or with the regular +/- keys, but let's not worry about those), it'll change the tool option to union or subtract, but will NOT affect the second rectangle, still selected.

Now you have to go to the top bar, using the path operations button, and set it to subtract for example. THIS will affect the shape. It is behaving weirdly, like it's a bug, the shape is affected with the mouse actions but not with the keyboard keys, but they're supposed to do the exact same thing (at least it was the case under CC 2014).

I don't think it has something to do with keyboard languages. Sorry if I've been unclear, it's not easy to explain 😛
David Mohr
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June 22, 2015
Hiya Jérémy,

Okay, maybe I didn't fully understand then...  Didn't you say that the numbpad + and - are working for both English and French?  Could you double-check, cuz that's specifically what I'm seeing on both Windows and Mac.

Thanks,
David
MonoqleAuthor
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June 22, 2015
Hey David,

It does make sense, but I just want to use my Photoshop the way I did under CC 2014, when those numpad buttons worked nice with the exact same config. I wish the Adobe team could make that happen!

Thanks a lot for your time, though!
David Mohr
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June 22, 2015
Howdy Jérémy,

I think I understand now.

The problem is that you're using a physically French keyboard which is still digitally set to be English.  At the English location of - and + (technically, =), in French, you have ) and -.  So Photoshop is doing the right thing -- it doesn't respond to ) and when you hit -, it stays -.  The numpad keys are the same across languages, so those always work.

To make the French keyboard behave like the English one, your + key is to the immediate left of the right Shift key and your - is to the immediate left of your Backspace key.

Does that make sense?

Thanks,
David
MonoqleAuthor
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June 20, 2015
So, I've tried it.

Keyboard in English:
+/- keys on the numpad changes the draw tool to add or subtract, but doesn't change the selected shape itself.

Both keyboards:
+/- keys, not on the numpad, don't work at all.
MonoqleAuthor
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June 19, 2015
Hey David,
I'll try it as soon as I return to my Mac, count at least several hours though. I'll get back to you right here once I've tried that.
Thanks for the help, it's very appreciated.
By the way, if it helps, my Photoshop is in English as well.
David Mohr
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June 19, 2015
Howdy Jérémy,

Could you humor me and try to set your keyboard to English and then see if you're still having this problem?

Also, could you try with the + and - keys on the main keyboard (immediately to the left of Backspace), rather than the + and - on the numeric keypad?

Thanks,
David