Inspiring

P: Quick Select works unexpectedly (no selection) in Select and Mask

Forum|Forum|9 years ago
June 24, 2016
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Tried the new Select and mask feature by following one of your tutorials. However I could not get anything close to a selection. It seems after using the quick selection tool and than the refine edge tool, in deselects instead of adds making a worse selection. Currently am going back to 2015 until it's fixed

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tracivanhorn

Participating Frequently

Thanks, but this is they way I would have made a selection using the previous version and I would have made a clean selection and moved on to the next step in my workflow in a matter of minutes. I did a similar selection the day before prior to the update and it was fast and easy.

cyberwaspAuthor

Inspiring

From what I've seen, during the select and mask the system uses a lot more system ram than the older refine edge did even though it's suppose to use GPU memory.

cyberwaspAuthor

Inspiring

Since disabling the GPU a lot of other option don't work and eventualy during a longer session, it still crashes. BTW AMD released another driver and I did update, the problem still is there.

According to this and other forums, the problem is not the video card brand or driver as it is happening across all brands. Also it is only happening with "Select and Mask."

cyberwaspAuthor

Inspiring

Am Sorry people. I took a high res image like this to a "Techno nerd," friend of mine who has the latest gear, 8 core cpu, NVidia 6g vram and and 32g high speed ram. he's been Photoshopping for years. Even his pc bogged down. He then switched to the last version with refine edge and did a nice clean selection if less than 3 minutes

StefanKlein

Known Participant

Tracy,

the way you work with this feature, is really weird and you cannot expect it to work this way. You are brushing over areas that do not need refinement, because you know, that you want to have them selected (like parts of the face). Your brush is WAY TOO large! BTW, your machine seems to be superslow. Check, if you ́re running out of RAM during that action. You ́ve only assigned 60% RAM.

And zoom in while working.

bettyl70193503

Participant

Thanks for sharing. Since it is a rather high res image, you may want to work in a more zoomed in display and perhaps try other view modes like Overlay or On Black/On White or Blank and White to get a better view and accuracy of the mask. Binary marching Ants view is difficult to view gray scale mask. I would also suggest not using the Refine brush to brush too much on areas that you know are definite foreground, such as right in the center of the face, as that would give the wrong hints to the algorithms. If the updated driver doesn't crash for you, you can try turning back on the GPU drawing preference.

tracivanhorn

Participating Frequently

Hi Betty,

Sorry about that, yes in the second image I was just using the refine edge brush and only brushing the edges and there was no radius on the settings. The first one didn't have any of the weird blocks/graphics until I let off of the mouse after doing the refine edge. When it finished processing that was the result. I did a screen recording last night. I just tried the select and mask today and it did better than yesterday, but it was still a far cry from what I am used to.

Here's the screen recording https://youtu.be/6eJ0sc14tjc

bettyl70193503

Participant

Hi Traci,

That doesn't look right. In your second screen shot, were you only using the Refine Edge brush and brushing on the edges only? Was there any Radius setting on the right? The first one looks like a display issue, did you try another view mode or display (zoom) level? Any screen recording would help too. Thanks.

tracivanhorn

Participating Frequently

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   Wave 17.0.0 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin”
   Wavefront|OBJ 17.0.0 (2015.5.0 x001 x003) - from the file “U3D”
   WIA Support 17.0.0 (2015.5.0 x001 x003) - from the file “WIASupport”
   Wind 17.0.0 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin”
   Wireless Bitmap 17.0.0 (2015.5.0 x001 x003) - from the file “WBMP”
   ZigZag 17.0.0 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin”

Optional and third party plug-ins: NONE

Duplicate and Disabled plug-ins: NONE

Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE

Extensions:

   Recent Files 1.2.1 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CCX_START_EXTENSION_1_2_1_001\index.html”
   com.adobe.inapp.purchase 2.4.83 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015.5\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.DesignLibraryPanel.html\purchase.html”
   Libraries 2.4.83 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015.5\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.DesignLibraryPanel.html\index.html”
   Start 1.2.1 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CCX_START_EXTENSION_1_2_1_001\index.html”
   onOne 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\onOne\index.html”
   Adobe Color Themes 6.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015.5\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.KulerPanel.html\index.html”
   Export As 3.0.5 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015.5\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html”
   Device Preview 1.2.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.preview20155\PSPanel\panel.html”
   com.adobe.preview.loader 1.2.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.preview20155\PSLoader\loader.html”
   Export As 3.0.5 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015.5\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

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Here's another screenshot of what is happening. It selected the house in the background when I was trying to clean up the selection of her face and ponytail. RackMultipart2016070217327jiw9-78149871-d53c-4221-b674-136bf8054ad6-972279652.png

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