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October 6, 2016

P: Random "Right to Left" Text Glitch

  • October 6, 2016
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Photoshop (CC 2015.5.1) frequently switches into "right to left" text mode. It seems random; Photoshop has "Default Features" in the Type > Language Options menu checked on.

I am able to switch back to "left to right" mode by checking on "Middle Eastern Features", and clicking on the "left to right" button in the Paragraph dialog. I then switch back to "Default Features". But after some time, Photoshop will go back into "right to left" text mode, and I would have to repeat the process above to correct it.

Is anyone else experiencing this, or has experienced and know of a way to make it stay in "left to right" mode permanently? This bug is very annoying and I hope it can be looked into.

Thanks!

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34 replies

Inspiring
October 17, 2016
I found interesting thing. I can reproduce it with my script for spliting text to layers by custom character. It worked always without this bug before Aniversary update.

Anyway my boss had same bug and he uses only default things in Photoshop. Nothing extra.
Inspiring
October 17, 2016
Not yet. Would it help if I turned a detailed log of all events into a txt file? And then I would sent it to you when I spot the bug?

Can Photoshop recognise text direction from Windows locales setings? If I would have e.g. Windows in arabic language. Would be paragraph option turned on by default? If yes, then maybe Microsoft could modified something in update and Photoshop could get wrong data.
David Mohr
Participating Frequently
October 17, 2016
Hey Jaroslav,

Any luck on figuring out the trigger to this?  I'm still able to repro this issue...

Thanks,
David
Inspiring
October 14, 2016
It happened again. I created a new document and this was first text layer in document.
David Mohr
Participating Frequently
October 12, 2016
Hey guys,

I would be VERY curious to hear whatever you come up with.  I've never heard of any other users having this issue, so this is all news to me, but then so is the anniversary update (I'm not running it).  I'm really interested in both figuring out the trigger as well as getting this resolved.

Thanks,
David
Participating Frequently
October 12, 2016
Prior to 2015.5, I also never experienced this. It only happened recently, and yes, I do have the Win10 Anniversary Update installed, just a week or so ago. Come to think of it, I don't think I ever experienced this issue prior to the Anniversary Update.

I will be screen recording my next session with Photoshop to see if it would reveal any clues as to why this is happening.
Inspiring
October 12, 2016
It happened in my company also. My boss has Photoshop with UI before Spectrum. I think he has CS6. He never changed the special options. And it happend me a week after on my another PC with PS 2015.5

I suspect Microsoft anniversary update, they did something wrong. Never happened before.

Blackthorn Group: do you have Win10 with anniversary update?
David Mohr
Participating Frequently
October 11, 2016
I have a video on the same topic, where I spell out not just how to fix the problem, but also how it happened in the first place.  Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17gM33tB1Hw  

Thanks,
David
Participating Frequently
October 11, 2016
Hi David,

I've seen some old posts about the directionality switching to R2L, eg, http://thedigitalhippies.com/digital/photoshop-cs6-text-glitching-fixing-the-text-corruption-problem/ -- actually, it was that post where I learned how to switch back to L2R.

I'll be doing some more Photoshop work soon, and I'll have a screen recorder running from start to finish. That way I won't have to waste your time (since I can't guess when the problem may reoccur).

I'll post a link once I have something you can look at.

Thanks,
David Mohr
Participating Frequently
October 10, 2016
Well, I'm not sure what to say.

Either, there is a missing step that is triggering this bug
   OR
You have a problem never reported by any other user in the six or seven years since we've had two composers in Photoshop.

I know that probably seems flippant, but I read all the various Photoshop forums for both Type and International bugs and I was deeply involved with the MENA project.  Heck, I maintain a YouTube channel that's focused on these issues and wrote my thesis on the later.  But in all of that, not a single user has ever had this problem...or if they did, the steps I already gave you resolved their problem.

If you create a NEW document set with the European/CJK composer with directionality set to L2R and you never interact with another document, then, I'm sorry, but it's impossible to change the text flow to R2L.  It's actually kinda hard to do and there are only a couple ways to do it.  I mean, if you include a Unicode value to reset the directionality, yeah, that would work, but that would sorta be cheating.  Otherwise, directionality is (currently) a document-level attribute that once set can only be reset or overridden a couple of ways, but those require either opening another document which has different settings OR running some sort of script OR running a very buggy 3rd party hack (that quit being available at least six years ago).  I know a number of users who'd LOVE what you are describing (if it could be tamed to happen only on command)...!  Heck, for those users, I've been trying to get directionality to be changed to a layer- or even paragraph-level attribute, but since that's never reliably worked due to the complexities involved (and therefore NEVER shipped), you'll have to pardon me if I'm more that a little skeptical...!

Again, do NOT just check where the cursor and punctuation appear -- those can be faked out.  What does the Directionality control, visible ONLY when the Middle East and South Asian composer is active WITH Language features enabled, show?  THAT is the ONLY test that counts.

If you would like, we can do a web-hosted screenshare to get to the absolute bottom of this problem.  I will not be in the office Monday, but Tuesday works...

Thanks,
David