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Inspiring
October 23, 2019

P: Saving copy not saving over jpg file

  • October 23, 2019
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working on Catalina OS. saving file extension works now but does not save over jpg when saving it creates a copy which is annoying and time consuming to fix

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Inspiring
August 2, 2021

@mattrock1 NOOOOOOOOOOO! It makes it worse. The file XYZ.psd should just save as a xyz.JPG not as a "xyz copy.jpg"

Why is this so hard to understand. That was the default for good reasons for 20 years!

If you write a Action script which is what pro users do all the time you need to be able to save a file in different ratios and sizes into different folders with the original filename without the word "copy" in it. If you try to change that in the action script and remove the word copy the action recording understands it as wanting to use that exact name. So in the above example you end-up with all files called XYZ indefinitely regardless if the original filename was abc.psd adobeisd*mb.psd. Everything is now called xyz.jpg. 

So either everything now has the word copy or everything is now called XYZ. this has to change. 

You need to be able to export just the filename without any additional word attached to it. Is that really that hard to understand????

Inspiring
August 2, 2021

@Frank Coppola  In case you haven't notice: this is about JPG. It automatically adds the word "copy" at the end. If you are working with actions IT THEREFORE CAN'T OVERWRITE A JPG automatically because you cannot use the "original filename" ... in other words my original file 123.psd cannot automatically save as 123.jpg... the suggested filename is ALWYAS "123 copy.jpg". So if you are creating an action script that creates a bunch of jpgs in different folders you end up with them called "123 copy". 

If you then decide to change that in the action recording and remove the word "copy" what it does is that in future every file will be called 123.jpg ... regardless if the original file was abc.psd or CDE.jpg or Adobeisst*pid.psd.

Participating Frequently
August 1, 2021

*thedodger Just for a point of clarification,  this is Not classified as a Bug Report, just a kvetch session, albeit not without some merit, when you say "That's what this bug report is about."  

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Inspiring
August 1, 2021

@DGrainger When you tell Photoshop to overwrite "stuff.jpg" and it prompts you asking "Are you sure you want to overwrite 'stuff.jpg'?" and you click "Yes" and it then creates a file named "stuff copy.jpg" and does not overwrite the file -- and yes, this is exactly what happens in this case -- then "amateur" refers to the programmers and QA people in San Jose that are writing this garbage.

While the above guy's "THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE..." statement is sort of random, he's clearly just upset at the fact that he can't do what he wants and I do not blame him. One becomes less than eloquent when apoplectic. People who judge other people for not having their thoughts in perfect order when they're justifiably pissed off are not good people, so don't be that guy.

After all, it's not like your sentence, "I am puzzled by your apparent blaming of Adobe when you use another company's product", makes any sense either. The only other "company" the guy has mentioned is Apple, for which he said he now has to use a part of his operating system to fix the issue.

I, too, use a Mac, and I, too, blame Adobe, because the fault lies with them.

When you open a JPEG, add a layer, and go to save or save as, you do not, as you say, have "the option to have the choice" to save the file with the name "copy" appended. You get prompts, but the "copy" is added anyway. You have NO choice. It does it anyway even though you told it to overwrite the file. That's what this bug report is about.

Participating Frequently
July 31, 2021

*lessucettes Perhaps you might re-read what you have written and think about it. I am puzzled first of all by the all caps statement "THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF A JPG. "  My question for you is What do you mean by "Purpose of a JPG?" Most people are grateful to have the option to have the choice to reverse an inadvertent over-write, but PURPOSE does not make any sense in that sentence. Also, I am puzzled by your apparent blaming of Adobe when you use another company's product. Not sure just who might be termed "amateur" here, simply a need for more education about the software.

Inspiring
July 31, 2021

Adobe just made it worse. In order to save a JPG you now have to specifically hit a button that says "save as a copy". THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF A JPG. 

IT BREAKS ALL ACTIONS AND MY COMPLETE WORKFLOW. Now I have to use Apple Automator to change file names and it interrupts everything I'm doing and no matter how much I try to integrate Appel Automator with Photoshop actions something always breaks somewhere. 

Thank you Adobe for converting Photoshop into a tool for Amateurs who apparently need to save a JPG as a copy for whatever reason! No one can actually explain WHY this is necessary. It's probably some sort of additional security not to save over a JPG but that's not how EVERYONE WORKS! Give us the choice!!

Inspiring
July 31, 2021

Not sure what you are trying to say — the issue is that Photoshop adds the word " copy" when I try to save a layered file to a JPG. Regardless if I saved it as a psd before hand. 

It doesn't matter whether I can change the name because it doesn't help with ACTIONS AND WORKFLOWS. If you change the name in an action then all future files are named the same. The point is, you want to retain the regional name and NOT have the word " copy" attached to it!

However, now that Adobe decides to add " copy" you cannot save over files, which may be the point of an action and you end up with EVERY file having the word copy attached to it regardless on whether or not it actually is a copy. 

SURE - you can change it manually. Good luck doing that with 37 files getting create with every file that is finalised and running through hundreds of files. Of course I CAN use Apple Automator and I am doing it but it breaks workflows up. I have to go out of Photoshop and run an automator function then go back into Photoshop and so on. 

It means that all your workflow is now f'd - excuse my French - and the automation is a headache because a lot of different actions are interrelated. If you don't have this issue, then you don't have to comment. 

I see no advantage of adding a " copy" behind every file you save. Beyond making files longer and harder to read and not connecting to naming systems. The word "copy" has a completely different meaning to what it does ... 

YES SOME OF US LIKE TO BE ORGANISED. SOME OF US RELY ON BEING ORGANISED TO BE EFFICIENT. 

Inspiring
July 30, 2021

leslie, whatever you're talking about is completely irrelevant to the issue here. There's no problem with permissions to write to the directory or the file. It DOES, in fact, do this just fine if you open a photoshop, add a layer with something on it (text, for instance), flatten layers and just "save" instead of "save as".

The BUG, and it is a BUG, not a "user doesn't understand" is that when you Save As to a JPEG from an open document that has layers, other channels, whatever that JPEG doesn't support so that you have to save it AS A COPY, you are given the option of naming it the same thing but it then proceeds not to.

Say for instance you have a file called "stuff.jpg"

You open it in Photoshop

You add a text layer that says "stuff is dumb".

You goto "save" OR "save as" -- they do the same thing because you have layers and your filename says "jpg".

You click "as a copy"  on the checkbox and uncheck "use layers". You select JPEG from the drop down. You click on the original filename, "stuff.jpg", so it's DEFINITELY what you're telling Photoshop to name the file as. "stuff.jpg".

Photoshop then proceeds to tell you you have to use layers, which you already knew. You say "ok" to that.

Photoshop then asks you if you want to overwrite "stuff.jpg". You click "yes" or "OK" or whatever.

It then proceeds to write a file called "stuff (copy).jpg" and COMPLETELY IGNORES the fact that you really really specifically told it not to and verified that when it asked.

That has absolutely ZERO to do with file permissions.

*sigh* between people who can't clearly describe the issue and other people who think they're helping with some random unrelated nonsense, it feels like I'm watching Dunning-Kruger Furbies talk to one another in here.


Known Participant
July 10, 2021

@mattrock1 It wasn’t a bug. Just a bad decision on Adobe’s part to change something that wasn’t broken or needed “improvement”.

Inspiring
July 10, 2021

The new Photoshop update fixed this issue finally. Go to:

Preferences > File Handling > Enable legacy "Save As"

Done. Thanks for listening Photoshop, you didn't loose this designer but you came close.