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FalconX444
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February 24, 2020

P: Spring Loaded shortcuts more sensitive - Turn off toggling between tools

  • February 24, 2020
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If you switch from a tool to another while holding the tool's shortcut button (i.e : switch from brush tool to eraser tool with a shortcut, but holding the "e" key while erasing something) make photoshop toggle between those tools. Some people may make use of it, but not me. In addition, the keyboard shortcut often lag, making photoshop do the toggle out of nowhere. It's really frustrating especially for Illustrators since I change the brush and eraser tool often. Please do something about it.

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Known Participant
October 13, 2020

*James Silva 

Yeah, this has essentially been the impact on my workflow, I attempt to explain how it changed since I have 20 and 21 both installed and they definitely don't function identically.

Inspiring
October 13, 2020

This kills my workflow with a Wacom Tablet, and it definitely seems new, or its behavior was changed such that it happens all the time now. I switch between brush and eraser frequently, and never ever ever intend to use spring-loaded shortcuts. It only means 20%-50% of the time I switch, I accidentally erase when I meant to draw and vice-versa. Ctrl-Z, try again, oops, spring loading still brought me back, ctrl-Z, wait, breath, deep breath, now go, okay. It's completely aggravating hitting this feature bug day after day after day, when there was definitely a time when I never encountered it.

Known Participant
September 11, 2020
I updated to the most recent Photoshop version and this feature has been destroying my workflow.

I see you telling people "this has been here for a decade" and asking why they are having a problem with it now and I think I have an answer for that:

The issue is (for me anyway) the spring loaded swap appears to have different "timings" now. When I'm painting I will hit my button RIGHT before I start a new stroke and about 50% of the time it will revert to brush when I wanted to stay on the eraser. Photoshop was thinking I was pressing it and holding it when I was just doing multiple light quick strokes with a hotkey tap in between. This did not happen as recently as 6 months ago. I'm not sure why it didn't happen if it's been in forever, but the way it works now is breaking workflow badly.

I was using this feature with the rotate tool and had no issue with it since hitting rotate is more deliberate, but with brush and eraser this is very intrusive.

I would appreciate a way to completely toggle this feature off for brushing and erasing (maybe a per tool basis toggle) as I find myself having to undo between half of my painting and sketching phases, and losing a lot of my flow. I understand it's working as intended how it is, I just think it's not how I'd prefer it to function.

If you need to see a video of it happening I can show you it, but I don't think it's very easy to replicate:

If you press the E button before the stroke starts and then let go after the stroke has started while you are still making the stroke, it will always revert to the brush.

This is the problem, we are quicker with our drawing hands, which means we "release" the e button slower than we start the brush stroke. So I'm drawing and make a mistake and quickly tap the e button while I'm still in a drawing motion and it thinks I'm trying to spring back to my old tool because I was holding e for .01 seconds after I started my next line.

Why it's different now: I think the functionality it had previously was that it would swap back if you held down the e for the entire usage of the tool and then took the pen off of the canvas, the swap back only happened when you help down your tool for a significant amount of time.

How to fix it: Ideally, a toggle to disable the functionality for specific tools. Another way to fix it would be to force people to hold it for a certain amount of time to measure intent. Springing on the eraser and brush only trigger when you hold down the tool you are swapping to temporarily for 0.5-1 seconds so that you know they are holding down the tool to use the spring function.

I've never had this problem when I was taking it slow, when I'm deliberately trying to use the spring I always hold it for the entire stroke, but when I'm going quick and clearly not trying to use the spring shortcuts and just tapping to swap, it messes me up frequently.

A lot of the reason I enjoy using Photoshop for my sketch and painting stuff is because it lets me work quick, so I really appreciate a lot of these features - this one just needs to be tuned a bit, I think.
Inspiring
August 27, 2020
Hello! I'd also like to express my desire for having the spring loaded tools having an disable option.

I've had this bug for quite some time and It is increasingly frustrating having to fight with the software when I'm trying to produce work, and it hampers my productivity significantly. I don't think the feature is bad for everyone but it'd be a big improvement for me and i imagine many other digital artists if the feature were to have an option to be disabled.

Thank you.
Best regards,
Sam
jae.t
Participating Frequently
August 21, 2020
Hello everyone.  I would like to voice my vote for Adobe to add the option of turning on and off the "Spring-loaded tools" function.

I am a semi-veteran  digital painter in the games industry (13 years or so) and have used Photoshop for most of the duration of that time.  Upgrading to CCThis new feature is not bad, but occasionally becomes a nuisance.  The simple solution would be to make it a setting you can turn off or on.  

I believe Adobe should allow people to turn off and on all new features unless there was some sort of industry shifting standard, and the addition of the on/off toggle of said feature would be too time consuming/costly.

Thank you.
-Jae
Participating Frequently
July 27, 2020
Windows 10
July 20, 2020
Window 10
July 20, 2020
Window 10
Known Participant
July 9, 2020
Windows 7 here
Inspiring
July 9, 2020
Windows 10 here.