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October 15, 2018

P: Transform/Resize is constrained by default - Want ability to go back to legacy behavior

  • October 15, 2018
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When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.

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Participating Frequently
December 10, 2018
That's it! We pay for the latest but it's useless.
Inspiring
December 10, 2018

I'm not Howard I'm the lead digital artist at his business. I should start by saying that. I've just got to log into our adobe account to post this.

Copy/pasting with a little bit of censorship from my personal facebook  account that an adobe rep asked me to post here.

OMFG I hate Adobe's change to the transform functionality in Photoshop. I've been trying to get use to it all week and it's absolute garbage and the PSUserConfig.txt trick isn't undoing it. I had to revert to old versions on of couple of work's computers because some freelancers we have in just wern't having it. I really spent the week trying to adapt and adjust to the change but but I've gone from being accepting of the logic of the change to bitter and angry.

It's such a necessary thing that's been standardized across the industry, Adobe changing this is equivalent car company being like, 'Hey, I know you're used to manual gear placement on our cars and every competitor's car being 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, but, what about we change to 1, 3, 2, 5, 4. Great right!'

And ya, I'm being harsh and rude but you've ruined a major part of tool that I have to use for my job every day.



Known Participant
December 10, 2018
I just want it back the way it was. This is wasting my time in editing and I have to use this on every photo and graphic I deal with. This was a completely unnecessary change.
Inspiring
December 10, 2018
Add me to the "please fix" camp.

I have never felt that the Shift/Contrain was an issue and don't understand why Adobe felt that needed to change.

Although I still would have been annoyed at having to retrain muscle memory, I would be fine with shift/constrain being reversed if it were CONSISTENT, but it's not. Now I have to think about what type of element I am trying to transform before I hit that shift key. I don't want to think, I just want to do. I use the transform function regularly and now I'm constantly hitting the undo command because I forget to check what type of element I'm transforming before I hit the shift key or not.

Which is easier to remember?
 
Shift = constrain 

or

Shift = uncontrain on raster layers, text layers,  and any group of elements that contain at least one raster layer or alpha mask
Shift = constrain on shape layers, groups of shape layers only, and in other Adobe products
Known Participant
December 10, 2018


I feel like an idiot! Why doesn't Adobe inform? Why do they make such unnecessary changes?
After I tried and sweared for half an hour, I found:
New in Photoshop CC version October 2018 (Version 20.0)
When converting most layer types, such as pixel layers, text layers, bitmaps, placed smart objects, simply drag a corner handle to scale these layer types proportionally. If you hold down the Shift key while dragging a corner handle during conversion, these layer types will be scaled non-proportionally.


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Participating Frequently
December 10, 2018


In Photoshop CC no longer uses SHIFT to constrain (a long held convention across all programs) but now uses SHIFT as unconstrained. 

This is confusing and totally slows down my workflow.
OK so constrain is now default but this should be a preference you can switch on and off.

I need unconstrained as standard for my work.
PLEASE by all means add features but don't change basic conventions!
Inspiring
December 10, 2018


When using image resizing or classic crop mode after drawing the crop area, resizing it will resize it locked to the initial drawn ratio. To get the correct resizing functionality you have to hold shift down. Holding shift should be what locks the ratio like it previous versions. This needs to be fixed or at least an option in the settings.

Users should not update until this basic functionality is fixed.
donbarrum
Inspiring
December 10, 2018
Honestly I can't imagine how the new transform is great for new users either. I tried once more to get used to it, spending a full day with the new transform. But because smart layers and shapes are not scaling uniform - I'm getting confused of the mixed behavior. I honestly still don't know which layers scale uniform or not, groups, multiple selections, smart layers, text layers, regular layers....It's a complete mess and I can't imagine anyone prefer it this way, unless one is completely rookie in the program. 
I find it seriously provoking that Adobe can make such a stupid change and just keep ignore paying customers in threads like this that doesn't have a single good thing to say about the change. I have added the userpref.txt change, but it's still annoying nonetheless, because I do not understand the logic at all for doing this. And it completely contradicts  their very own argument for adding multiple undos, which were to unify the experience across Adobe programs. 

Also now when doing free transform, the rotation boundingbox around corners are moved a lot closer, and that also breaks the user experience for no good reason. Before you could rotate the transform box wherever you have the cursor outside the box, now you need to be up close to the corners. My list of things getting worse by each update is expanding every year. 
Inspiring
December 10, 2018


The transform reference point in version 20 is not working like it did in previous versions. In past versions. In past versions when the reference point was moved to a new position by sliding the reference point to a new location with the mouse or by option-clicking to reposition the reference point, the transformation scaled around the point. Now, this is only available by holding the option key modifier. As an advanced user, I would prefer to go back to the older way or allow me to change the behavior of transform in Photoshop preferences.
Inspiring
December 10, 2018


Hey Adobe

How about a checkbox in preferences that lets you use the legacy transform feature we've been so used to for the last 20 years? Great for new users and all that, but for people that have used the software for a long time, now we press Shift and it un-constrains proportions.

So there's a checkbox for using Legacy Undo under Keyboard shortcuts (also not a huge fan of those new changes either), why not do the same for Legacy Transform in preferences? The fact that you have to resort to notepad to sort this out is a bit stupid in my opinion.

Andrew