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October 17, 2018

P: Transform rotate handle click zone is too small (for auto-commit change)

  • October 17, 2018
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The rotate handles' interaction radius seem so much smaller now since the patch. You used to be able to just drag pretty much anywhere and be able to start rotating, but now after the patch I have to be relatively close to the handles in order to start rotating. Quite inconvenient because there's no reason for my cursor to do anything else when in transform mode, why restrict it?

Is there any kind of setting (I couldn't find any) I can change to revert back to previous?

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Earth Oliver
Legend
November 22, 2018
What an amazing upgrade to your workflow! No longer are you burdened by needing to hold shift while scaling, but now you get to hold down a new key while rotating or you'll lose all your transformations! Progress!
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45634563545
Inspiring
November 22, 2018
A little more fuel for the fire -
Just noticed this new change to the auto-commit region, when transforming, conceals yet another UX wonk for established users:  While transforming, we can no longer RIGHT-CLICK to get the transform operation context menu, with only our mouse, to change transform type (warp, distort, perspective, etc) or flip horizontally/vertically IF we accidentally right-click OUTSIDE of the invisible 100px zone. It commits the transform, instead. whooops, CTRL+Z

Both left-click AND right-click both just commit the transform if outside the 100px zone.

Yes, I can hold Control and then right-click anywhere I want in order to get the desired context menu.
Didn't have to do that before, though. Why not require me to hold Alt and Shift as well? 
Why is pressing ENTER suddenly taboo? I blame the patriarchy.

Either way, transforming feels like it's more difficult and tedious than ever in v20.0.1.

Adobe: "But it's just ONE key press."
User: "But it's just one key press I perform 317 times a day."

It's not really about time, though. It's about intuitive software ui that feels like an ally, not an enemy.
I sound like a whiny baby, but . . . this is the reality of ux - it's extremely delicate.


Joel xo
Inspiring
November 20, 2018
agreed
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2018
Genius! Nice find. It is the command key for Mac. STILL, Adobe should give the option to flip flop that, so that command-click equals commit.
Joel xo
Inspiring
November 20, 2018
Some thoughts after a month of using 2019... 

I reverted to "shift-to-constrain" after a few days of realizing that even trying to retrain my muscle memory would still leave me with UI inconsistencies. Don't get me started on Distort.

Rotate still annoys, but much less now that I know that the command (windows control) key temporarily neutralizes the auto commit "feature", when I thought only the shift key worked (and then you had to let go if you wanted to rotate freely), I was much more irritated. I think I can train myself to do that, and realistically, this is probably not a high priority for Adobe. Longtime/pro users are a smaller and smaller percentage of their revenue stream every year and you can't fight the math. 

I'll still protest every episode of UX sabotage, but this forum is probably more effective to share workarounds than to fight the power. Grateful for everyone's tips.
Joel xo
Inspiring
November 20, 2018
Having the cursor change to a check mark when the next click will commit whatever you're working on wouldn't hurt though. I just can't see them getting rid of it completely.
45634563545
Inspiring
November 20, 2018
I'd prefer to not give them an out.
The behavior should either be reverted or an alternative behavior (legacy) checkbox added in Preferences > Tools.
Legend
November 20, 2018
Get rid of auto-commit for transform.
Participating Frequently
November 20, 2018
The beauty of the "rotate by clicking anywhere outside" is that you don't NEED to look to rotate. You hit Cmd-t, effortlessly swing your cursor out of the transform box and rotate happily away, secure in knowing you are far out enough to rotate in finer increments.

Sigh.

But If Adobe is bent on making this a thing, at least make the cursor for rotate more pronounced. Maybe even make the cursor change to "commit transform" when we've had the misfortune to stray more than an inch away from the transform box.
Kukurykus
Legend
November 17, 2018
This forum is not only one place where people jeer those warped changes. Check out others, like regular Adobe Photoshop forum where I see still new topics are beeing created about, while others continued. Then read the comments and do the same under youtube records and many different source articles about new Ps, specifically dedicated to oddities in comments sections as well.