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November 18, 2019

P: Zooms out while trying to subtract from current selection

  • November 18, 2019
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option+command+clicking the layer used to subtract those pixels from your selection, however, it appears this shortcut has been updated with "zoom to layer". It still subtracts those pixels, but zooms out every time, which really interrupts my workflow. 

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Inspiring
February 4, 2020
I've had this issue since Monday for some reason. Really horrible hit to my workflow, and Adobe Support has been terrible all morning, asking tons of unrelated questions, have un/reinstalled, reset preferences several times, and the issue PERSISTS. Here is my copy/paste post on one of the support forums, where for whatever reason, devs don't participate.

Traditionally, you ctl+left click on a layer thumbnail to make a [marching ants] selection in the Document window. To add to the [marching ants] selection, say other layers you want to have marching ants to, you hold ctl+shift+left click on those layer thumbnails. So far, so good, right? Those work fine still. HOWEVER: If you want to either use a layer thumbnail to intersect with or subtract from the [marching ants] selection: Say you have a leather jacket on a layer, and above it you have a layer for buttons on the jacket. You want to tint the jacket but not the buttons, on a non-destructive layer that you want placed above all layers. You ctl+left click the jacket layer icon in the layer panel, which results in a marching ants selection. Now you want to remove the buttons from that [marching ants] selection. Traditionally (and we're talking decades, literally, of using Photoshop here- I've been a game dev for 24 years, so believe me when I say this is a new problem) you ctl+alt+left click the THUMBNAIL of the layer in the layer panel. The good news? It still MOSTLY seems to subtract from the [marching ants] selection as intended, but it ZOOMS INTO THE LAYER. This is very jarring, and really wrecks a workflow. Is this making sense? If not, I'll actually construct a GIF so it's finally clear. Nobody in support seems to be getting this, and it's super bizarre that it's getting overlooked so completely. It's also bizarre that so many are griping about it and the devs are parading solutions to a completely unrelated issue. I finally found a workaround, where, after I select a layer, I then right-click a layer thumbnail and choose Add/Subtract/Intersect Transparency Mask.

Can devs PRETTY PLEASE make it so we can disable this alt click to zoom in? It's CRAZY annoying and is destroying workflows!! 
Known Participant
January 23, 2020
I use Alt+click to collapse/expand layer Effects globally, so definitely "Zoom to Layer Content" should be on/off feature.


Inspiring
January 10, 2020


Zoom to layer content
Can i turn this new feature off? Its killing me....
Participating Frequently
January 10, 2020
@2787792 Nelson, Although it's a nuisance, be aware that you can right/ control click on the layers and select from the drop down one of the options to add, subtract or intersect from the selection. Personally, I never remember to do this and click expecting the old functionality, and get the resulting wildly annoying and workflow disturbing change in zoom.
Inspiring
January 10, 2020
HI David, This is not the same issue. Why has my problem being merged to this conversation? 'how to turn off 'fit on screen zoom' in the thumbnail layer with command click on the layer. Using mac in photoshop 2020?'. Not very helpful. Is there a way of turning this feature off?
Inspiring
January 10, 2020


So I have an image of a house on a separate layer, cutout from the background. In front of the house I then have a cutout image of a palm tree on yet another separate layer.
So - 3 layers: 1.Background, 2. house and 3. palm tree.

Lets say that I now want to paint the house blue and still have the palm tree in front of the house in its original colour.

So this is what I do:
1. I make a selection of the house by selecting the layer with the house (so now I have marching ants around the house selection).

2. To subtract the palm tree from this selection I now hold down the Ctrl + Alt keys (on my PC) and click on the small thumbnail image pertaining to the layer with the palm tree...

And this is where it all goes wrong (intermittently 50/50%) - it subtracts the palm tree from the selection as it should - but 50% of the time the view will zoom in on a completely irrelevant area of the image, right down to giant pixels showing - while at the other 50% of the time, it will zoom right down on the palm tree. (Which is actually really annoying too!! - because I have no intention of working on the palm tree. And I am told by Adobe that this stupid auto zooming cannot be switched off in version 2020).

Because of this "...zooming in on a completely irrelevant area of the image, right down to giant pixels showing" I have now had to revert back to Photoshop version 2019 to be able to do my work.

PLEASE Adobe - make version 2020 a functional version.



Inspiring
January 8, 2020


Can this be turned off this annoying new feature? 
Participating Frequently
December 12, 2019
Thanks to the other comments at least this bug makes sense to me now. In case anyone else is searching for a fix to this problem like I was:

There is a new feature where Option (Mac OS) + clicking on a layer thumbnails causes the content of the layer to zoom so it fills the active window. 

Option + Command + click on a layer thumbnail should result in the contents of that layer being subtracted from the current selection. 

Instead, Option + Command + click on a layer thumbnail causes both actions to occur. 

Same is true for Shift + Option + Command + click (intersect selections).

Hopefully this bug will be addressed in the the next update. 
Known Participant
December 11, 2019


Hello !

I usually use the shortcuts in "Layers" panel :
Ctrl as Select All
Ctrl + Shift as Add selection (+)
Ctrl + Alt as Substract selection (-)
Ctrl + Alt + Shift as Xor selection (x)

And the shortcuts with Alt are using "Zooming to Content" (new feature). Two shortcuts are impacted, and it has not to be, or maybe we have enable/disable this in preferences.

Thanks
Known Participant
December 11, 2019
Hello !

I usually use the shortcuts in Layer Panel :
Ctrl as Select All
Ctrl + Shift as Add selection (+)
Ctrl + Alt as Substract selection (-)
Ctrl + Alt + Shift as Xor selection (x)

And the shortcuts with Alt are Zooming to Content (new feature)..