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P: "Clear In" & "Clear Out" function is not working when opening a sequence in the Source Monitor

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July 23, 2026
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Hi,

Context:

I'm using Premiere Pro daily with a timeline opened in my Source Monitor to have a similar configuration to the "Toggle Source/Record" from Avid. I find this workflow to be a lot more precise and pleasing than pancaked timelines, as you can anticipate exactly the start and end frame when putting clips on the program timeline and use the two monitors efficiently.

This way of working in Premiere actually works, but there are a few annoying bugs and small things missing that are really painful when using this workflow daily. In the current behavior, Premiere constantly reminds me that it was not designed for that. This bug has been here for a long time and is one of the reasons this workflow sometimes feels painful (see this , this and this topic).

How to reproduce the bug:

Open a sequence in the Source Monitor
Choose the option “Open Sequence in Timeline” to view the Source Sequence in a timeline
Add both an In and Out point
Try to use the “Clear in” or “Clear out” function.
It will clear BOTH In & Out points (same as “Clear In & Out”)
Expected behavior: Clear only the In point for the “Clear In” function. Let the Out point where it was.

(Attached video below shows more.)

For my workflow, I constantly use the “Open Sequence in Timeline” as said earlier. I add my clips to my Program timeline only with in/out point from the source monitor, then with Insert & Replace functions. So this is critical for me !

I noticed the “Clear In” and “Clear Out” features work as expected:

in the Program Monitor.
in the Source Monitor when I open an element that is not a sequence.
in the Source Monitor when I open a sequence but BEFORE I use the “Open Sequence in Timeline” feature

Sidenote :

I think there is a global “”synchronization”” issue between the in and out points that are in the Source Monitor panel and the In and Out points that are in the timeline panel on a sequence opened in the Source Monitor.

Because I also frequently encounter another issue where I put an In and Out point in the source monitor panel, and when I go back to the visual representation of the source sequence in a timeline, there are still my old In and Out points. I didn’t manage to reproduce this bug consistently (sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn't). That’s why I didn’t open an issue for it, but this feature and workflow really need to be reworked.

System:

Adobe Premiere 26.3.0 (Build 93)

Also tested and managed to reproduce the bug in Adobe Premiere (Beta) 26.5.0 StaticLib (Build 31)

Macbook Pro M4 Pro - 48GB Ram - MacOS Tahoe 26.1

Thanks! ✨

Premiere in & out bug.mp4

DavidParke

Known Participant

amen. I found all your source/record posts when starting a feature request to just have ONE source monitor timeline that will swap whatever is in the source monitor at the time. I don’t ever need multiple source monitor timelines open. Some people might use that function, so make it a toggle. But man, you GET it. Thanks for all your submissions!

David Parke | Freelance Editor — Los Angeles, CA | System: MacBook Pro 16” (2021) · M1 Max · 64 GB RAM | OS: macOS Sequoia 15.6 (24G84) | Premiere Pro: 26.3.0 (Build 93)

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Jonathan Editor

Community Manager

Hi @Philéas,

Thank you for reporting this occurrence. The team was able to reproduce this bug. We will document this issue and investigate further.

Thank you and we appreciate your patience as we work on this.

Best,

Jonathan

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athletic_fact6385

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I’ve noticed that problem as well. It’s probably connected to the way, Premiere handles sources and their In/Outs (can also be found in the metadata of the project panel) and a timeline as normal timeline (because normal timeline in/Out shouldn’t overwrite the sources In/Out markers).

But that’s confusing and doesn’t seem to be right always. Best case would be that the In/Outs are always synced if a sequence is opened both in the source monitor and the timeline as source.

PhiléasAuthor

Known Participant

You’re totally right !

It is really like if that this workflow in Premiere (and particularly the “Open Sequence in Timeline” feature in the Source Monitor) was never finished.

Because there are plenty of other things that are not correctly implemented in the timeline panel of a source monitor (compared to a sequence opened in the Program Monitor). For example, audio tracks does not behave the same in the source monitor and in the program monitor.

I think this workflow should get an overhaul in Premiere and get the attention it deserves.

See those issues that are similar :

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Jonathan Editor

Community Manager

Hi @Philéas,

Welcome back to the Premiere forums! Thank you for reporting this occurrence with extensive detail and a video example. The team was able to reproduce this bug and will be making an official report of the issue.

We appreciate your patience and hope this bug can be resolved soon. Sorry for the frustration.

Best,

Jonathan

PhiléasAuthor

Known Participant

Always here in version 26.2.2.

Should I move this thread as a bug ? @IanB_360

PhiléasAuthor

Known Participant

Hello !

Context :

I'm using Premiere Pro daily with a timeline opened in my Source Monitor to have a similar configuration than the "Toggle Source/Record" from Avid. I find this workflow to be a lot more precise and pleasing than pancaked timelines, as you can anticipate exactly the start and end frame when puttings clips on the program timeline, and use the two monitors efficiently.

This way of working in Premiere works actually works, but there are a few annoying bugs and small things missing that are really painful when using this workflow daily. This bug/feature which is here since a long timeline is one of the reasons this workflow sometimes feels painful (see this and this topic).

The bug :

Open a timeline in the Program Monitor.
Open this same timeline in the Source Monitor.
From the Source Monitor, click on the wheel and "Open in Timeline"
The previously opened timeline in the Program Monitor will be closed, and nothing will be opened anymore in the Source Monitor. If you had only one timeline opened on this screen, your panel's layout is destroyed.

This bug occurs because the timeline that I'm requesting to open in the Source Monitor is already opened in the Program Monitor. Premiere Pro can't open one timeline two times, so it will close the previously opened timeline. And nothing will be opened in the Source Monitor anymore. I think that situation should be handled by Premiere Pro which should instead "convert" the already opened timeline to be viewed in the Source Monitor.

How it should work

Open a timeline in the Program Monitor.
Open this same timeline in the Source Monitor.
From the Source Monitor, click on the wheel and "Open in Timeline".
The selected timeline is closed in the Program Monitor and Program Timeline, and opened in as a Source Sequence.

Note

You can work around by this, by making sure that you have not opened this timeline before opening it through the Source Monitor. But when working on large projects with a lot of footages and timelines using this workflow, this always happens at some time or another, and it is quite frustrating. I encounter this bug multiple times a week, and I always feel like Premiere Pro is not helping me out.

Recorded on the latest available build : Premiere Pro 25.5.0.

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