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eegriff
Participant
June 27, 2024

P: Glitchy Video in Timeline

  • June 27, 2024
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After I upgraded to 24.4 several days ago, I can no longer edit MXF video files. The video in the timeline is glitchy, with pixelated blocks displayed whenever something moves in the scene. The glitches are exported in the final render, so it’s not a temporary or display-only issue. (If I render the MXF to MP4 with HandBreak, there are no glitches in the output, so I think the MXF container is OK.) My camera is unchanged and I’ve used this workflow hundreds of times. I went back to an editing session from before the 24.5 upgrade and all is fine–no glitches. I cleared the cache, rebooted my Mac, checked the sequence settings, but nothing helps.

103 replies

swrutherford
Inspiring
August 7, 2024

 

Here is an example of the digital artifacts I'm seeing in Premiere. This was a frame export. Renders do the same thing.

Stephen
Ishan Y
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 7, 2024

Hey swrutherford,

I'm sorry you're experiencing this issue. I have branched your reply for troubleshooting.

 

Have you adjusted the clip speed in your project? Please let us know which camera was used to record this footage and share your media properties (Project Panel > Right-click on file > Media File Properties).

 

Please also share your system specifications (OS, OS version, CPU, GPU, RAM). 

 

This post was branched from an older post.

Thanks,

Ishan

Please tag me (@) in your replies so that it notifies me and helps me respond promptly.
swrutherford
Inspiring
August 7, 2024

Thank you for your reply!

 

Here is a link to an example of what is happening: https://www.youtube.com/embed/2OTgNvJX_no

 

Here are the Media File Properties (I have 4 total clips with identical settings - other than length, though all are in the 45 minute to 1 hour range):

 

File Path: D:\JDA 2024\JDA\RED\Clip0014.MXF
Type: MXF
File Size: 20.38 GB
Image Size: 3840 x 2160
Frame Rate: 29.97
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 24-bit - 4 Channels
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - 4 Channels
Total Duration: 00;49;47;15
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
Alpha: None
Color Space: Rec. 709
Color Space Override: Off
Input LUT: None

MXF File details:
Wrapper type: MXF OP1a (type: SingleItem SinglePackage MultiTrack Stream Internal)
File generated by: Sony, Mem (2.00)
Bitstream Format: Sony
H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Long GOP High Profile 4:2:0 Unconstrained Coding
Bitstream Format: Sony
Class 60

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System Specs:

Device name Yuletide_i9
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K 3.20 GHz
Installed RAM 128 GB (128 GB usable)
Device ID 04FEE4B2-8980-4A37-BB8A-3CB0F7D58730
Product ID 00330-80032-44482-AA911
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

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Windows Version

Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 23H2
Installed on ‎6/‎15/‎2024
OS build 22631.3958
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1026.0

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Premiere Pro 24.5.0 (Build 57)

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Nvidia Studio Driver 560.81 Released 8/6/2024

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Thank you for your assistance!

Stephen
Participant
July 24, 2024

We are a production company, running Premiere Pro 24.5 on Windows Machines.

 

Since the update to Premiere Pro 24 (or so, the Update that brought the New Timeline Design), the Decoder/Encoder for XACV-L (which is our main acquisition format from Sony FX9/FS7, as is for many production companies that use Sony Cameras) seems to be broken. Other people from the industry have reported that it happens to XACV-I Footage from the Sony FX6 Cameras as well.

 

Viewing the footage natively is not possible. It constantly drops frames and Premiere gets incredibly slow, until it just shows blackscreen instead of the footage. It shows a red message in the corner that it could not retrieve the frame, and after a number of attempts it just gives up.

 

Trying to export the footage from Premiere just freezes the program; adding to Media Encoder Queue and rendering does work, however, horrible glitches get exported with the footage. I have added a few screenshots on how it looks.

The only way around it, as for now, is to transcode the sourcefile to some intermediate codec in media encoder first, then replace the XACV footage in the project manually. This takes time and a boatload of storage when you are shooting long clips.

 

Needless to say, this is a bad issue; we have a hard time trusting our exports and have to watch everything 3 times before it goes out. We tried different hardware configurations, Software only rendering, etc. and since we are not the only ones affected, i would assume this is an issue that came with the update. It is so bad that I started to see these kind of glitches all over TV now. People in the industry here in Austria have reported that they are considering switching to Media Composer again because all of their acquistion happens on Sony cameras whose footage experiences this kind of problem.

 

I just wanted to draw some attention to this issue and get feedback if other users are experiencing this as well; and if anybody has found a way around it yet. (other than waiting for Adobe to fix the issue).

Participant
July 24, 2024

PS: All other codecs that we tried (including XACV-S from Sony Alpha cameras) works just fine.

eegriff
eegriffAuthor
Participant
July 22, 2024

Thanks, Jamie. 

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
July 22, 2024

Hi @eegriff - We have received the files and I can confirm the problems you are experiencing.  In the meantime while we investigate further for a solution, a simple workaround is to go to your Settings > Media > and at the bottom there is a checkbox labeled "Enable Hardware Accelerated Decoding" make sure this box is unchecked then close Premiere Pro and relaunch this should clear the glitches.  Thank you for your help investigating and troubleshooting. 

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
July 22, 2024

HI @eegriff - would you be able to send us one of the files so that we can take a look?  You can send a link to jamiec@adobe.com It would also help if you could do a screen capture so that we can see what you are experiencing.

eegriff
eegriffAuthor
Participant
July 22, 2024

I downloaded the Preimer Pro beta, launched with Shift, selected all four radio buttons (clear cache, etc.), loaded a recent MXF clip, and... the video glitch is still there.

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
July 22, 2024

Hi @eegriff - This is done after you have updated Premiere Pro.  Launch Premiere Pro while holding down the "SHIFT" button on your keyboard.  A dialog box will open with options to select.  Most important ones would be "clear media cache", "Reset plugin loading cache", "Disable third-party plugins"

eegriff
eegriffAuthor
Participant
July 22, 2024

Tell me more about "remember to hold down shift after any installation". When exactly do I do that? 

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
July 22, 2024

[waiting to see the results of Jamie's suggested steps]

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
July 22, 2024

We recently made some updates in the beta version 24.6 when working with MXF files.  Please open the creative cloud desktop app under the beta apps in the side bar and try downloading Premiere Pro 24.6 beta.  Alwasys remember to hold down shift after any installation and check the boxes to clear media chache, reset plugin cache and if you have any problems you can test by disabling third party plugins to troubleshoot.  Let us know how it goes.