P: Specific Presets do Not Save when I exit and return from the application (PREMIERE PRO)

Since they haven't been listed in the last few updates I believe it's so they can shift users to the non obsolete versions of these effects and keeping the obsolete ones hidden to still work with already made presets with those effects already on your Adobe presets folder (not new ones being imported which would lead to the problem of them not staying in the preset folder)

Another interesting bit of info on disappeared / obsolete preset.

Remember what I said about Excalibur using an obsolete transform effect? I just used Excalibur to see if I could apply other obsolete presets and effects. The only other obsolete effects I could identify to could  are the old Garbage matte effects. This is a completely different set of garbage mattes than the presets I had previously imported.

So basically, Premiere is fully capable of implementing obsolete presets and effects, but for some reason does not save them in the effects tab.

From what I see Adobe made the conscious decision to get rid of the obsolete transform (a little late probably because of how many users used the old transform in their presets) which just means that old 3rd party presets will need to be updated with the times

@ShadowedStar Glad it worked!

Going forward, I hope there's a more built in solution to this on Adobe's side. I still don't think it's the 3rd party's fault if they made their presets years ago before those effects became obsolete. So either Adobe can do something to fix this, or all 3rd party preset makers have to update their presets to use non-obsolete effects.

Just tried this myself and can confirm that the preset with the effects have stayed. Which probably means cinecom used the obsolete transform making them break in the new Adobe premiere. All hail Nam Tram

I HAVE FOUND THE SOURCE OF THE ISSUE + A WORK AROUND FOR DISAPPEARING PRESETS UPON CLOSING AND OPENING PREMIERE.

(Sorry, this is for the SEO so people can find this)

@R Neil Haugen I haven't contacted the Folks at Knights yet but, but at best they'd only be able to provide a work around for my specfic scenario, and not solve the primary issue with everyone else using other presets.

I believe the primary cause of the presets not being saved is due to them using the obsolete versions of an effect.

Remember how at one point, premiere used to have 2 versions of the "Transform" effect in the effects tab? There was Transform and Transform (obsolete). My guess is that a lot of these broken presets are broken because they utilized the obsolete version of their effects (and for some reason, Excalibur is still drawing upon the obsolete Transform effect).

To prove this theory correct, I imported an old preset that uses a 100% obsolete effect, which is the garbage matte. Importing and implementing it works fine. Upon re-opening premiere, it disappears. Ok so that solves my personal issue, but what about everyone else with their broken presets that they purchased from 3rd parties

This is the solution:

1. Import your Presets as always.
2. Apply the broken presets to any random clip.
3. In the effects control panel, select all of the effects from the applied preset + select the OPACITY.
4. Save new preset.

I can confirm this works for both my obsolete transform effects + the garbage matte effects. Previously they both disappeared, but after this work around, they no longer disappear. The reason I chose Opacity is because this setting is generally untouched at 100%, but you can use Motion or Time Remapping if you wish.

Thanks for the sleuthing, as that is very interesting information. Hmm. Have you talked with the awesome folks at Knights et al?

Here is a followup to my last reply about my transform effects disappearing. This PARTIALLY solves the issue for me and hopefully this gives the Adobe team some sort of clue as to what the issue is.

If I make a new transform effect from the effects tab and save it as a preset, it now stays. 

However, if I apply the Transform effect using a 3rd party plugin such as Knight of the Editing table's Excalibur, the effect disappears once saved as a preset. For those who don't know, Excalibur brings up a contextual menu that lets you search your effects and apply it to a selected clip.

That means when I import a preset that I've made in the past, and then close Premiere, if some of them disappear and some stay, that means the effects that disappeared were the ones I applied using Excalibur.  In 2022 when I made these presets using Excalibur, there was no issue, but for some reason the last 2 versions of Premiere has broken it. Even making a new preset now with an effect applied by Excalibur doesn't work. 

HOWEVER, this so far only applies to the transform effect. Any other effect I apply using Excalibur and make a preset out of does not have this issue (Crop and Gaussian blur worked for example). It's possible there are more effects that are affected this way that I haven't encountered yet. 

So this brings me to one conclusion: There is a tainted variation of the transform effect and various effects, depending how they were originally applied. In my case it's being applied by Excalibur. In other peoples cases, you may have a preset that was also originally made with Excalibur or a similar plugin that caused it to be tainted. If I apply the old preset onto a new clip, and then save that as a new preset with a new name, that tainted effect still does not save.

Some of you are focusing on and blaming the wrong parties here. This issue has nothing to do with 3rd party plugins such as Cinecom. I've been having this issue for the entire year using ONLY the built in premiere pro effects.

For example, I'll apply a transform effect, make 2 keyframes for the scale, and then save it as preset, close and re-open premiere pro, and the effect is gone.

If I make a custom Bin and drag the effect to the custom bin and close and re-open premiere pro, what happens is the effect in the Presets bin is GONE but the effect in the custom bin is still there, which is really odd.

Now here is where it's really confusing, one of my Transform effect presets did save and is permanently there, but every new transform effect I try to save as a preset just disappears.

I too am having this issue for a couple of months. And yes I am using the camera shake effect.  I use it in most of my videos so it is frustrating having to reimport after each Premiere start.  Also the imports take forever to load.

The only thing I have found to work is to create a new custom bin and manually drag the camera shake effects that I use to this custom bin.  So far, every time I start Premiere they are in there.  But the one caveat is I CANT RENAME THE CUSTOM BIN! I try to rename it to "Camera Shake" and every time I restart it reverts back to the default 'Custom Bin 01'   The reason I can't rename it is probably related to the original issue somehow

Regardless, at least for now I have found a way to not have to import the effects each time I start Premiere.  Hope this helps.