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Jeff Bugbee
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 11, 2017

Project Manager - Consolidate and Transcode problems

  • July 11, 2017
  • 26 replies
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A while back I had several issues with clips not trimming properly during the Consolidate and Transcode process. I reached out to Adobe support and was given this fairly comprehensive list of when and why clips will fail. For some reason, this list is not posted publicly anywhere. I've copied it in it's entirely below. I've bolded several line items I feel are fairly important. There are now essential features in Premiere that I skip using (such as the Master Clip Effect layer) since it breaks the archive process.

 

These issues affect all versions of Premiere, including the current CC2017 version - 11.1.2 (22)


Hopefully this will help some people with project management.

 

  • If any one of the 4 major video parameters (frame size, frame rate, fielding, PAR) do not match or are not supported by Preset/codec, then entire clip will copy.
  • If the clip has multiple stereo channels of audio. These can only transcode to QuickTime, all other formats(e.g.: DNxHD) will fail and copy, since the other exporters do not support multi-stereo (QuickTime is the only exporter that currently supports that and only with uncompressed audio)
  • Time remapping is not supported. Will copy entire clip without warning.
  • There area number of formats/presets that are not supported for transcode (e.g. mostly still formats)
  • Merged Clips are not supported.
  • Copy of folder structures (e.g.: P2, AVCHD, etc.) is not supported. Depending on format, some files may be left out or other issues.
  • Master Clip Effects are not supported, and will be copied without no warning. This includes all the formats that now have source settings as Master Clip Effects (e.g.: R3D, ARRI, etc.)
  • Audio only files
  • If used in a merged clip. Unused merged clips will also copy.
  • Render and Replace files, even if unused
  • Clips with dual mono (2 mono) will copy, although they may also transcode (this is a known bug), but the project will always link to the copied clip and not the transcoded clip (using up even more space)
  • Clips with single mono audio will also fail to transcode.
  • Modify > Audio Channel changes may also result in failure to transcode.

26 replies

ShadeTreeWorks
Participating Frequently
March 5, 2025

Even though this looks neat, this is Professional grade paid software with a Commodore 64 feature to export your projects in some formats.  It's not like the community is asking for something crazy, just a better optimized and streamlined feature that should have been flawless in V1, but here we are on V25.  This can create clips from thin air in AI, but it can't in any practical timespan compress my project.  Do you see where the disconnect is.  I applaud the dozens of work arounds, but they shouldn't be needed.  

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
March 5, 2025

Nothing new to report at this time. This just came on the intertubes, though. It's from one of our Adobe Experts, Piotr of Cut to the Point. Check it out.

 

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
ShadeTreeWorks
Participating Frequently
March 5, 2025

Is there any movement on this.  Every few months when I try to mix down my videos I feel this Premiere Pro enduced pain in my side.  Having done FFMPEG transcoding and such for some Android video editors, I do understand a lot of limitations in things,but I also fully understand the lack usable UI and good information when trying to mix down Sony video files.  Sometimes is shows progress on windows in the bottoms right, sometimes it seems to crash silenty and doesn't appear to update or alert me unless I exit.  It also seems to get slower and slower as it goes through a file, which shouldn't really take place that noticeably unless there is a possible memory leak or something.  My machine has an i7 with 64GB of ram and runs like a 486 when I use Project Manager.  I would love this to have a less abrasive, and better optimized way to mix down a project.  

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 17, 2024

@daapap 

 

Sure, XDCAM HD can be placed natively in a Premiere Pro Timeline, but it cannot be set as a Preview format (called "Optimized" in other NLEs), does not support Smart Rendering, and we cannot transcode to it.

 

 

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 17, 2024

Hi @danielrucci,

You make an excellent point that the documentation could be more helpful in using the tool more successfully. I will see what I can do about that while we wait for the Project Manager to see some love.

 

Take Care,

Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Participant
May 17, 2024

Thank you for the attention to this, Kevin. The advocacy from someone inside Adobe is appreciated.

Is the fact that Project Manager does not work with long-gop media called out in the help files? If it was not supported, it should either say that on the project manager window, as a caveat "(!)" info bubble, or it should simply be added as a feature. I don't understand why it would not be a feature if you have to render all the other media clips on export anyway. Hopefully this feature can be added/supported.

Inspiring
May 17, 2024

"XDCAM HD which is a tapeless aquizition format - not an editing format" says who? Adobe? 

Here in Germany broadcaster have been filming and editing with XDCam HD for years with no problems at all, and Avid for example has no problem with consolidating the native files without re-encoding. ffmpeg does it as well, but Adobe can't ...

addendum: and the nearest i-frame in i-frame only material is the frame itself, btw

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 17, 2024

Hello @Jeff Bugbee,

Thanks for this bug report. I advocate that the team take action to improve the user experience with the Project Manager. Media management should be much less painful.

I apologize for the problem to you and others on the thread.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Participant
October 17, 2023

It's now Premiere 24.0, and I hadn't had to consolidate a sequence for a while, but needed to send a 6 min doc teaser for finishing to a colleague in VFX / GFX, preferably (I hoped) via Wetransfer. It's a 1080p25 sequence composed of freshly shot stuff @ 4k, archive from loads of sources at a range of frame rates, some nested sequences, some music, loads of stills, and cutdowns from a bunch of lengthy audio interviews. Needless to say Premiere's project manager utterly choked at this smorgasbord and I couldn't get it below 180GB (!). And even then there would have been tons of stuff missing. Found this thread and Plumepack, within 15 mins I have a 6 GB folder, completely perfect. Thanks Plumepack ! The only thing I'd say is dupe your project for consolidation with PP (which I did) as it is pretty deep process which guts your existing project and replaces all the media before your very eyes.

Legend
October 14, 2023

Hey, @Andy Adkins .

I have been writing about this to the developers for a long time and was sad myself until I abandoned this idea and just changed the NLE. What is happening now with the development of Premiere is utter chaos and engineers' misunderstanding of what users want. This is extremely sad. And the prerequisites were to develop this idea. I just spat on it.