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Limitation of Adobe Generative AI user guidelines [merged thread]

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August 26, 2022
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Hello Adobe and its collective users

I am writing to you not only as a devoted user of Adobe’s suite of creative tools but also as a professional photographer whose work has been recognized and displayed in museum settings. My specialization in classic nudes has allowed me to explore the human form in a manner that celebrates beauty, form, and artistic expression. However, I have encountered a significant challenge with the AI restrictions placed on editing images that contain nudity, even when such images are created within a professional, artistic context.

As an artist whose work often involves nuanced and sensitive subjects, I understand and respect the complexities of creating ethical AI tools that serve a wide user base. However, the current limitations significantly impact my creative process and professional workflow, particularly when it comes to editing backgrounds for nude or semi-nude images. These restrictions not only prolong my work but also inhibit my artistic expression, compelling me to seek alternative solutions that may not offer the same level of quality and integration as Adobe’s products.

I propose the consideration of the following points, which I believe could benefit both Adobe and its professional users:

Artistic Integrity and Professional Use: Recognition of the professional and artistic context in which tools are used can help differentiate between content that is genuinely creative and that which the restrictions aim to prevent.

Ethical Use Policy: An ethical use policy that accommodates professional artists and photographers, possibly through a verification process, ensuring that our work is not unduly censored while maintaining legal and ethical standards.

Custom Solutions for Professionals: The development of specialized software versions that allow more flexibility for editing sensitive content, with appropriate safeguards to prevent misuse.

Feedback and Advisory Panel: Establishing a panel of professionals from the art and photography community to provide ongoing feedback and insights on how Adobe’s tools can better serve creative professionals.

Transparent Guidelines: The creation of clear, transparent guidelines that navigate the legal and ethical landscape, especially regarding sensitive content, to ensure users can understand and comply with Adobe’s policies.

I am fully committed to engaging in a constructive dialogue and am willing to be part of a solution that respects both the creative needs of artists and the ethical considerations of digital content. I believe that by working together, we can find a balanced approach that supports artistic expression while adhering to shared values and responsibilities.

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I am hopeful for an opportunity to discuss this further and explore how we can make Adobe’s tools even more inclusive and accommodating for professional artists and photographers. Steven Williams

Imaging

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Nancy OShea

Community Expert

"...we should just use Sensei. I looked that up because I didn't know [what] it is, apparently it only works on Premiere and AE..."

By @QINGCHARLES

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Photoshop has been powered with Sensei technology since 2021. See below for more details.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Monika Gause

Community Expert

Sensei is the name of older AI powered tools in Photoshop. Content aware fill and repair brushes.

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QINGCHARLES

Inspiring

Believe me, I try to use every other tool before I touch Gen AI because of the other problems. Sometimes, say with a background extend, it would take you hours of inpainting manually to do what Gen AI can do in 5 seconds, so I'll just struggle and crop the edge of the photo, extend that and paste the results back in.

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QINGCHARLES

Inspiring

This. It doesn't need to contain any nudity at all. Off the shoulder sweater will get you a moral outrage from Photoshop. It only does this on female photos. It's clearly gender-descriminating.

One comment in this thread said we should just use Sensei instead. I looked that up because I didn't know it is, but it apparently only works on Premiere and AE, so no use for background extending my photos.

daniellei4510

Community Expert

I can recall only two or three times I've had issues with female models wearing t-shirts, having bare legs, etc. And the problems were solved by slightly changing the shape of my selection. The one time I've had a consistent issue was when I was trying to COVER UP breasts that were exposed due to a very plunging neckline of a jacket, rather than exposing them even more. The fix? Liquify. Sometimes the tried and true tools do the job as well as or better than generative fill.

Adobe Community Expert | If you can't fix it, hide it; if you can't hide it, delete it.

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QINGCHARLES

Inspiring

I've edited literally hundreds of model photos over the last year. One thing I can tell you for 100% certain: the models don't need to be remotely nude. What triggers the error is: 1) the model is female, not male; 2) there is any skin showing (e.g. arms, or legs). Face showing is fine, we're not at the point where we can only edit photos of women with faces covered, but I would say in 10% of the time I get the error it is with a model who is fully clothed, but wearing a t-shirt and shorts for instance.

Only happens with female models, not male.

90% of my use is extending the background. I don't take the photos. I sometimes plan the poses and shoots, but I'm not the photographer. Often I get a great photo, but there's not enough space around the model for all the social media crops we do (1x1, 7x8, 9x16 etc) so I need to extend the background. I can get around it often by cutting out the model, extending, and putting the back together. I shouldn't have to do this.

droopydog500

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droopy

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