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Limitation of Adobe Generative AI user guidelines [merged thread]

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August 26, 2022
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Hello Adobe and its collective users

I am writing to you not only as a devoted user of Adobe’s suite of creative tools but also as a professional photographer whose work has been recognized and displayed in museum settings. My specialization in classic nudes has allowed me to explore the human form in a manner that celebrates beauty, form, and artistic expression. However, I have encountered a significant challenge with the AI restrictions placed on editing images that contain nudity, even when such images are created within a professional, artistic context.

As an artist whose work often involves nuanced and sensitive subjects, I understand and respect the complexities of creating ethical AI tools that serve a wide user base. However, the current limitations significantly impact my creative process and professional workflow, particularly when it comes to editing backgrounds for nude or semi-nude images. These restrictions not only prolong my work but also inhibit my artistic expression, compelling me to seek alternative solutions that may not offer the same level of quality and integration as Adobe’s products.

I propose the consideration of the following points, which I believe could benefit both Adobe and its professional users:

Artistic Integrity and Professional Use: Recognition of the professional and artistic context in which tools are used can help differentiate between content that is genuinely creative and that which the restrictions aim to prevent.

Ethical Use Policy: An ethical use policy that accommodates professional artists and photographers, possibly through a verification process, ensuring that our work is not unduly censored while maintaining legal and ethical standards.

Custom Solutions for Professionals: The development of specialized software versions that allow more flexibility for editing sensitive content, with appropriate safeguards to prevent misuse.

Feedback and Advisory Panel: Establishing a panel of professionals from the art and photography community to provide ongoing feedback and insights on how Adobe’s tools can better serve creative professionals.

Transparent Guidelines: The creation of clear, transparent guidelines that navigate the legal and ethical landscape, especially regarding sensitive content, to ensure users can understand and comply with Adobe’s policies.

I am fully committed to engaging in a constructive dialogue and am willing to be part of a solution that respects both the creative needs of artists and the ethical considerations of digital content. I believe that by working together, we can find a balanced approach that supports artistic expression while adhering to shared values and responsibilities.

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I am hopeful for an opportunity to discuss this further and explore how we can make Adobe’s tools even more inclusive and accommodating for professional artists and photographers. Steven Williams

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leonardo_da_rocha_1726

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My name is Leonardo, I’m a graphic designer currently working on chapters of a horror book. During the free trial last year, I was able to generate images of demons, eerie scenes, and similar content without any major issues. However, the current filters in the Generative Fill tool have become so strict that it’s honestly… a bit frightening.

Unnecessary content censorship
Beach photos featuring people in swimsuits or shirtless are being flagged as nudity and blocked, which is disrupting my creative workflow.
Annual subscription underdelivering
I subscribed to the annual Firefly plan to fully explore the tool’s potential, but these constant restrictions are making it difficult to use the product effectively.
Compared to other AI tools
Other image generation platforms can distinguish context and appropriateness much more accurately — I truly hope Firefly can match the standard Adobe is known for.

I kindly ask the product team to reconsider and adjust the content moderation filters, finding a better balance between safety and the creative freedom artists rely on (after all, I’m not trying to summon real demons… just illustrate them digitally!).

Thank you in advance for your attention — I’m happy to provide examples or further feedback if needed.

Sincerely,

Leonardo

Graphic Designer

nicmart

Inspiring

Workarounds are to Adobe censorship what bootlegging was to alcohol prohibition. A very poor solution.

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Giuseppe33210521xyqi

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paint over the offending body parts and export a copy of the image, then use the copy to extend the background and finally use the extended background with the original image. I found that if you do that with layers within the same image, sometimes it still doesn't work for me, so this workaround so far did the job.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

"Photoshop includes Firefly AI capabilities now."

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At this moment, it does, but that could change. Historically, new features in Photoshop come & go. This happened with Image Ready, web page builders and 3D graphics tools— all gone now. At its core, Photoshop is still an image editor.

If your sole interest is AI, you can use Firefly and/or other generative AI services without Photoshop.

https://firefly.adobe.com

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

"So, the solution is to look for alternatives to Photoshop."

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This topic is about Firefly, Adobe's AI image generating app.

Photoshop is first & foremost an image editor, and a very good one. You can use Photoshop to manually create whatever you want without AI. Or you can combine it with other tools to create whatever you want. The possibilities are unlimited providing you have the talent & skills to do it.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Dario de Judicibus

Known Participant

Well, Photoshop includes Firefly AI capabilities now.
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Dario de Judicibus, Rome, Italy (EU)

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

If you want an app that lets you do whatever you want, you'll need to create one.

There are AI app builders available to help you. But you'll need a decent sized database of images to use for training because AI can't create something from nothing. 98% of Firefly is the quality & quantity of its source material, culled from curated Adobe Stock assets.

Incidentally, Adobe Stock does not accept nudity or other adult content.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/submission-guidelines.html

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Dario de Judicibus

Known Participant

So, the solution is not to look for other AI apps, but to look for
alternatives to Photoshop. Why I should buy a product from a company that
pretends to tell me which MUST be my culture and my values?

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Dario de Judicibus, Rome, Italy (EU)

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tonya20624874

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Then provide different guidelines for different parts of the world.

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AlanGR

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Yup, as you said, it's not just nudity at all. I had been trying to create events from my life, like during my infantry training almost 50 years ago. For example, an innocuous scene of a group of us 18 year old guys, running on an old airstrip before dawn, shirtless and wearing olive green PE shorts and tennis shoes. Wouldn't do it at all and told me I was trying to do something against the community standards - absolutely ridiculious. In the infantry, we often did things shirtless but, as soon as I used the term "shirtless" bells and whistles go off and it would not do it. I gave up on Firefly in late 2023 as it was too frustrating. MJ has similar issues but not quite as bad. I tried Adobe's product again about 2 months ago and still had bad results with people so I'm not overly impressed.