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August 26, 2022
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Nudity and other issues which appear to violate Adobe Generative AI Guidelines [merged thread]

  • August 26, 2022
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Hello Adobe and its collective users

I am writing to you not only as a devoted user of Adobe’s suite of creative tools but also as a professional photographer whose work has been recognized and displayed in museum settings. My specialization in classic nudes has allowed me to explore the human form in a manner that celebrates beauty, form, and artistic expression. However, I have encountered a significant challenge with the AI restrictions placed on editing images that contain nudity, even when such images are created within a professional, artistic context.

 

As an artist whose work often involves nuanced and sensitive subjects, I understand and respect the complexities of creating ethical AI tools that serve a wide user base. However, the current limitations significantly impact my creative process and professional workflow, particularly when it comes to editing backgrounds for nude or semi-nude images. These restrictions not only prolong my work but also inhibit my artistic expression, compelling me to seek alternative solutions that may not offer the same level of quality and integration as Adobe’s products.

 

I propose the consideration of the following points, which I believe could benefit both Adobe and its professional users:

 

Artistic Integrity and Professional Use: Recognition of the professional and artistic context in which tools are used can help differentiate between content that is genuinely creative and that which the restrictions aim to prevent.

 

Ethical Use Policy: An ethical use policy that accommodates professional artists and photographers, possibly through a verification process, ensuring that our work is not unduly censored while maintaining legal and ethical standards.

 

Custom Solutions for Professionals: The development of specialized software versions that allow more flexibility for editing sensitive content, with appropriate safeguards to prevent misuse.

 

Feedback and Advisory Panel: Establishing a panel of professionals from the art and photography community to provide ongoing feedback and insights on how Adobe’s tools can better serve creative professionals.

 

Transparent Guidelines: The creation of clear, transparent guidelines that navigate the legal and ethical landscape, especially regarding sensitive content, to ensure users can understand and comply with Adobe’s policies.

 

I am fully committed to engaging in a constructive dialogue and am willing to be part of a solution that respects both the creative needs of artists and the ethical considerations of digital content. I believe that by working together, we can find a balanced approach that supports artistic expression while adhering to shared values and responsibilities.

 

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I am hopeful for an opportunity to discuss this further and explore how we can make Adobe’s tools even more inclusive and accommodating for professional artists and photographers.    Steven Williams 

186 replies

amaralcreative
Participant
September 19, 2024

Does any know if the 'FireFly' restriction is perminant or termporary?

 

 

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2024

@amaralcreative if you mean the Generative User Guidelines. Those are not temporary.

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

 

Participant
September 9, 2024

I completely agree with your perspective, Steven. I fully share your frustration as a longtime Photoshop user since the mid-1990s, spanning 34 years. Photoshop became the gold standard for photo editing largely because of its role in the fashion industry, where enhancing the human form was accepted and celebrated. What I find troubling is that Adobe’s software, once intended for private use, is now subjected to overreaching censorship that treats our personal workspaces as if they were public forums.

If this were a community space like Discord, where content moderation is necessary to protect a wider audience, I’d understand. But that’s not the case here. This feels like "Big Brother" AI moderation, applying an overly cautious and highly subjective lens to what should be private, professional work. Even though we agree to their terms of service, these restrictions feel borderline offensive, particularly when Photoshop became what it is today by supporting industries that relied on its ability to edit the human body—most notably, fashion marketing. How can Adobe be held liable for what users create in their own private spaces? It’s a flimsy excuse.

If Adobe’s concern is backlash from extremist groups, they are caving to the pressure of a vocal minority that shouldn't have a say in the creative work of professionals. The company should stand up for the artists and photographers who have remained loyal for decades. The fact that I’ve had innocuous items like flesh-toned vases flagged, or client photos of swimwear restricted from AI tools due to arbitrary censoring, is absurd and quite frankly, infuriating. We’re talking about a shoulder or a curve—basic elements of photography and art. 

I recognize the potential dangers of AI misuse, and yes, there will always be those who exploit technology. But restricting advanced editing features for professionals—who have been using this software for decades—undermines our workflow and stifles creativity. Rather than weaponizing censorship against its most devoted users, Adobe should be championing the advancements of AI to make our lives easier.

Perhaps a waiver or verification process could be implemented for professional artists, fashion retouchers, and photo editors, but at the core, this is private-use software, and Adobe’s promise of "creating anything" in their advertising should mean exactly that—with no arbitrary restrictions.

The slogan 'Unleash your creativity with AI art generation' is misleading; the reality is closer to 'Release your family-friendly creativity with AI art generation.' But let’s be honest, that doesn’t sell software.

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 9, 2024

The data storage and processing is being performed on Adobe's servers.

Participant
August 20, 2024

Yes right I agree to you.Adobe should remove their hard restriction.

Atanu Roy
Participant
August 10, 2024

Eu pago essa [cursing removed] de programas da Adobe para editar minhas fotos de conteúdo adulto. E essa [cursing removed] de programa conservador do [removed by moderator] não quer deixar eu subir minhas fotos. Pago quase 300,00 por mês e não tenho direito de usar como quero. Nem tem como cancelar o contrato com a Adobe 

Participant
August 8, 2024

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Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2024

@Michael39071337soxw you could temporarily mask or cover the areas the AI is hung up on to add your river etc. then unmask/restore those layers.

Participant
August 8, 2024
Do you have a tutorial to hide the person as you just told me because I don't think I know how to do it 😕😕
Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2024

@hectorblg the terms are very well defined and you agreed to them when you click the initial screen when using any Firefly AI enabled feature:

 

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2024

Note: Moved to Adobe Firefly forum. This is not a Photoshop-specific topic. Firefly terms apply to all tools and "censoring".

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2024

»just don't lie to potential customers saying you will be able to CREATE ANYTHING.«

@hectorblg , when and where did Adobe representatives make that »create anything«-claim with regard to Firefly and/or Generative Fill? 

I don’t follow all Adobe announcements and publicity releases so I may have missed it even if it was ever made. 

Participating Frequently
August 20, 2024

I see a new advertisment popping every day at Facebook and X.

Participating Frequently
August 8, 2024

Just fed up by working with generative fill. I've passed through "fist", "water explosion", "cartoon explosion", then through "pheromones", "gas", "psychodelic", also through "steam". Everytime SCOLDED by Adobe because I'm going against their moral standards, probably created by some scared people who are offended by fists; pheromones, pyschodelic, steam, gas. I posted about this once, and got lectured from a forum staff for saying it's not censorship. Well, maybe let's call it another way, plenty of inoffensive stuff you may imagine goes against Adobe's guidelines. Adobe should be honest when they make advertisment for Generative Fill, just don't lie to potential customers saying you will be able to CREATE ANYTHING. At least put some "little letters" saying you when you try to create something, you must stick to some undefined, illogical and very, VERY strict guidelines. I know that some will say "don't trust AI", do it the "old way". Well, I precisely bought Adobe creative cloud because I'm not a designer or visual artist, I'm just a pro musician working on a big personal project, a sci-fi visual novel with DAZ3d to make my images, and who naively believed photoshop would help me to speed the process to add effects, create backgrounds, and stuff like this, because of it's "advanced" AI generative fill. Such a big disappointment. Another thing Adobe should add in their advertisment is "ONLY SUITABLE for MARKETING, and ADVERTISEMENT IMAGES, DON'T TRY IT if you want to CREATE COMICS, VISUAL NOVELS, OR FREELY ARTISTIC STUFF". Sorry for my rant.

AxelMatt
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2024

This is the wrong place for this. That's a public forum, not the link to Adobe support. Please click the link below to contact Adobe staff to help. Only they can configure the exclution list of the "Generative Fill" function.

 

Be sure to remain signed in with your Adobe ID before accessing the link below.

You have to allow 'cookies' in your web browser for this to work

https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html

 

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locusofeden
Known Participant
July 5, 2024

I have not seen that, but it's good to know. When I mentioned disliking the wording of their user guidelines I was specifically referring to the guidelines equating explicit nudity with abusive, or illegal, or content that violates the rights of others. Child s3xual abuse material I can obviously understand, but lumping nudity in general with some sort of crime is preposterous. However, if the reason is that they don't want nudes of any kind on their servers for legal reasons, this, as I said, I can understand. And it would be nice if they would just specifically give that as the reason in their user guidelines rather than giving the impression that nudity, or even pornographic material for that matter, is illegal. 

I'm still not sure why their algorithm is so over-sensitive that if a woman is in the photo at all it is often blocked, particularly when I've seen first hand how an algorithm, AI scan, or whatever the process is, for a social media platform can catch the tiniest nip slip. I once posted a photo to instagram which was instantly taken down because I hadn't noticed a literal nip slip which wasn't easy to spot without zooming in. (hillarious, just found out you can't say [censored]pple or [censored]xual)

Anyway, now that I know the specifics about how generative fill works, by uploading the image to their server, I'm happy to cover the model entirely with a censor block before using it. I'd prefer it actually. 

 

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Known Participant
July 6, 2024

 

 

I understand censorship has been a long-discussed topic. However, it seems that it has become more aggressive in returning warnings. I was trying to generate a background for this fully dressed model, but I kept getting warnings. There is no explicit nudity in this photo, yet to no avail, I get the warnings. This also happens with a lot of bikini shots, especially if they're thongs or lack of tops but covered by arms. Can't you refine the training where it recognizes genitalia and uncovered breasts so it can distinguish explicit nudity from other forms of innocuous, albeit revealing outfits or lack thereof? I'm using Photoshop Beta 25.11.

 

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 7, 2024

This is exactly how it started with Skynet.  First we are told that no more than two square inches of exposed flesh are allowed.  Next there's a T1000 Climbing over crashing through your garden wall. 

 

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 5, 2024

Have you seen the explanations that were added to the terms of use? 

https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms.html