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August 26, 2022
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Nudity and other issues which appear to violate Adobe Generative AI Guidelines [merged thread]

  • August 26, 2022
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Hello Adobe and its collective users

I am writing to you not only as a devoted user of Adobe’s suite of creative tools but also as a professional photographer whose work has been recognized and displayed in museum settings. My specialization in classic nudes has allowed me to explore the human form in a manner that celebrates beauty, form, and artistic expression. However, I have encountered a significant challenge with the AI restrictions placed on editing images that contain nudity, even when such images are created within a professional, artistic context.

 

As an artist whose work often involves nuanced and sensitive subjects, I understand and respect the complexities of creating ethical AI tools that serve a wide user base. However, the current limitations significantly impact my creative process and professional workflow, particularly when it comes to editing backgrounds for nude or semi-nude images. These restrictions not only prolong my work but also inhibit my artistic expression, compelling me to seek alternative solutions that may not offer the same level of quality and integration as Adobe’s products.

 

I propose the consideration of the following points, which I believe could benefit both Adobe and its professional users:

 

Artistic Integrity and Professional Use: Recognition of the professional and artistic context in which tools are used can help differentiate between content that is genuinely creative and that which the restrictions aim to prevent.

 

Ethical Use Policy: An ethical use policy that accommodates professional artists and photographers, possibly through a verification process, ensuring that our work is not unduly censored while maintaining legal and ethical standards.

 

Custom Solutions for Professionals: The development of specialized software versions that allow more flexibility for editing sensitive content, with appropriate safeguards to prevent misuse.

 

Feedback and Advisory Panel: Establishing a panel of professionals from the art and photography community to provide ongoing feedback and insights on how Adobe’s tools can better serve creative professionals.

 

Transparent Guidelines: The creation of clear, transparent guidelines that navigate the legal and ethical landscape, especially regarding sensitive content, to ensure users can understand and comply with Adobe’s policies.

 

I am fully committed to engaging in a constructive dialogue and am willing to be part of a solution that respects both the creative needs of artists and the ethical considerations of digital content. I believe that by working together, we can find a balanced approach that supports artistic expression while adhering to shared values and responsibilities.

 

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I am hopeful for an opportunity to discuss this further and explore how we can make Adobe’s tools even more inclusive and accommodating for professional artists and photographers.    Steven Williams 

184 replies

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 11, 2025

"So, the solution is to look for alternatives to Photoshop."

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This topic is about Firefly, Adobe's AI image generating app.

 

Photoshop is first & foremost an image editor, and a very good one. You can use Photoshop to manually create whatever you want without AI.  Or you can combine it with other tools to create whatever you want. The possibilities are unlimited providing you have the talent & skills to do it.

 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Dario de Judicibus
Known Participant
April 12, 2025
Well, Photoshop includes Firefly AI capabilities now.
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Dario de Judicibus, Rome, Italy (EU)
Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 10, 2025

If you want an app that lets you do whatever you want, you'll need to create one.

 

There are AI app builders available to help you. But you'll need a decent sized database of images to use for training because AI can't create something from nothing.  98% of Firefly is the quality & quantity of its source material, culled from curated Adobe Stock assets.

 

Incidentally, Adobe Stock does not accept nudity or other adult content.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/submission-guidelines.html

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Dario de Judicibus
Known Participant
April 11, 2025
So, the solution is not to look for other AI apps, but to look for
alternatives to Photoshop. Why I should buy a product from a company that
pretends to tell me which MUST be my culture and my values?

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Dario de Judicibus, Rome, Italy (EU)
Participating Frequently
April 10, 2025

Then provide different guidelines for different parts of the world.  

Participant
April 10, 2025

Yup, as you said, it's not just nudity at all. I had been trying to create events from my life, like during my infantry training almost 50 years ago. For example, an innocuous scene of a group of us 18 year old guys, running on an old airstrip before dawn, shirtless and wearing olive green PE shorts and tennis shoes. Wouldn't do it at all and told me I was trying to do something against the community standards - absolutely ridiculious. In the infantry, we often did things shirtless but, as soon as I used the term "shirtless" bells and whistles go off and it would not do it. I gave up on Firefly in late 2023 as it was too frustrating. MJ has similar issues but not quite as bad. I tried Adobe's product again about 2 months ago and still had bad results with people so I'm not overly impressed.

Participating Frequently
April 10, 2025

Then start using different guidelines for differeant area's.   

Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 9, 2025

"Duh, it's not adult content when a man or woman in a bathing costume is
standing at a bar in the Bahamas. "

 

Maybe where you live... In other parts of the world, the decency police would disagree. 🙄

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 9, 2025

I'd run out of my four daily freebies by the time ChatGPT came close to getting in right. 🙂 I'm still not convinced I want to drop $20 for it.

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Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 9, 2025

"I wanted an image of two children standing in front of an abandoned, post-apocalyptic amusement park..."

 

Divide and conquer.  Generate the children as a separate image. Then generate the amusement park. 

Combine the two manually with traditional compositing techniques.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
AlanGilbertson
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 9, 2025

@c.pfaffenbichler You just highlighted a problem with AI, which is that most people don't realize that the term "AI" is almost meaningless because it covers such a broad range of different technologies. (Think how the word "vehicle" covers a moped, an SUV, a semi-truck, and a SpaceX Dragon. They have some technologies in common, but they are very different.)

 

Google Deep Mind solved the protein folding problem some years ago using a specific AI technology that grew out of their machine learning research. Co-founder and CEO of Google DeepMind, Sir Demis Hassabis, and Google DeepMind Senior Research Scientist Dr. John Jumper, who led the development team, were co-awarded the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for that breakthrough. Yes, it is a kind of AI, an advanced type of machine learning, but should not be conflated with the technology behind Firefly or Adobe Sensei, just as you wouldn't conflate Toyota engineering with SpaceX engineering.

 

I know that probably seems picky, but it's important. "AI" is everywhere. Not all of it is real. We all have to understand what it is we're dealing with or we'll be swamped.

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 9, 2025

I think that honor goes to ChatGPT. I wanted an image of two children standing in front of an abandoned, post-apocalyptic amusement park, and it refused to generate anything that suggested harm to children.

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