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August 17, 2021
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P: Auto-write changes to XMP

  • August 17, 2021
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In Camera Raw, there is a half-buried setting to write changes to XMP. Unfortunately there is no way to specify that settings should always be written to XMP, so every file I process, I have to manually run that command.

 

How about adding a preference to always write changes? I move files between machines as my workflow, I use presets and dng profiles, and everything blows up if changes aren't saved out.

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JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 18, 2021

Ah, I think I see what you may mean now. I have a preset that is used as camera default. If I open a raw image of that camera, do nothing and hit 'Done', then an XMP sidecar file is written to disk. But if I open that sidecar in a text editor and check what's in it, then the preset settings aren't written in there. Of course you do not notice this if you open the raw file in ACR on the same computer again, because the camera default preset is once again applied if you do. But if you would open the raw file on another computer -that doesn't have this camera default preset- then you won't see the settings.

That is indeed a bug.

-- Johan W. Elzenga
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 18, 2021

I can't reproduce that on my Mac running Big Sur and ACR 13.4. If I apply a preset, change nothing else and click 'Done', then the settings are written to XMP just fine. 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Legend
August 18, 2021

@Johan_Elzenga

Nope. PRESET settings are not written to a sidecar if no manual changes are made. This is in ACR 13.4.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 18, 2021

So which version of Camera Raw do you use? Nobody has asked you that and you haven't said it, but I strongly believe this is the problem. Like Andrew already said, the option to save the edits in the Camera Raw database rather than in XMP was depreciated quite some time ago, so Camera Raw will always write sidecar files for proprietary raw, unless you use an old version that still can write to the database. 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 18, 2021

Seems not designed to do that alone. Maybe a bug? I can bug it but again, might be by design. Got older versions you can test?

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Legend
August 18, 2021

@andrew_rodney 

yes if I make further changes, ACR writes out the sidecar file. I'd just like my profile adjustments to be saved, I archive the files to our file server and that way the preset adjustments are portable.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 18, 2021

So please, so we can see the behavior on your end, do what you're doing but make a tiny (one value of anything) adjustment of ANY slider. Do you see an XMP? 

I don’t touch anything, I simply click Done.

Which may be the issue. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Legend
August 18, 2021

I open the CR2 files in ACR. The default preset that I have created for that camera loads along with the associated profile. I can see the develop settings I have specified.

I don’t touch anything, I simply click Done. What I want is the preset adjustments (custom color balance, clarity, noise reduction, etc) to be written to an XMP sidecar. I don’t need to make any edits, that is the whole purpose of having default presets and profiles.

However, there is no sidecar file created and all of my adjustments are not written to disk.

And I am NOT changing to a DNG workflow. I have a tested and working setup other than writing changes to XMP. I typically do no further edits or changes in ACR, I simply open the files into Photoshop at that point.

August 17, 2021

@lumigraphics I find this very strange.  I do not create or use DNG files.  I always see xmp files created after I click Done.  Is there something you are doing in moving files from one computer to another that causes the xmp files to disappear?

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 17, 2021

Well without a DNG workflow, you'll at the very least, need to populate both computers with the DCP profiles. Most likely the same with presets. Much of the other edits should be written with the Done button used. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"