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August 17, 2021
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P: Auto-write changes to XMP

  • August 17, 2021
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In Camera Raw, there is a half-buried setting to write changes to XMP. Unfortunately there is no way to specify that settings should always be written to XMP, so every file I process, I have to manually run that command.

 

How about adding a preference to always write changes? I move files between machines as my workflow, I use presets and dng profiles, and everything blows up if changes aren't saved out.

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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 19, 2021

Upleveling David's comments to mark as official answer.

The following behavior described as a bug, is actually as designed:

"...do nothing and hit 'Done', then an XMP sidecar file is written to disk. But if I open that sidecar in a text editor and check what's in it, then the preset settings aren't written in there."

Camera Raw does not add settings to a photo until you actually make an adjustment. This is as designed. 

I understand there are manual steps required to commit the current defaults as the settings, but you do not have to perform those steps one photo at a time.

To batch save the default settings as the active settings for a selection of photos with no settings, you can use the following workflow.

1. In Bridge, Filter for photos with "No Settings" in the Camera Raw section of the Filter panel.

2. Select all those photos.

3. Open them in Camera Raw (cmd/ctrl + R)

4. Select them all in the Camera Raw filmstrip (cmd/ctrl + A)

5. From the ••• "More Image Settings" menu button in the toolbar select "Export Settings to XMP"

You can then close the Camera Raw dialog with Done or Cancel after the settings are written.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Legend
August 19, 2021

@david_franzen 

Thank you, I'm aware of the steps and this is exactly what I'm asking you to change. Please add a setting where preset adjustments can be auto-written to XMP instead of having to do it manually. It would save me having to remember doing this for every file.

dfranzen_camera_raw
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
August 19, 2021


The following behavior described as a bug, is actually as designed:

"...do nothing and hit 'Done', then an XMP sidecar file is written to disk. But if I open that sidecar in a text editor and check what's in it, then the preset settings aren't written in there."

Camera Raw does not add settings to a photo until you actually make an adjustment. This is as designed. 

I understand there are manual steps required to commit the current defaults as the settings, but you do not have to perform those steps one photo at a time.

To batch save the default settings as the active settings for a selection of photos with no settings, you can use the following workflow.

1. In Bridge, Filter for photos with "No Settings" in the Camera Raw section of the Filter panel.

2. Select all those photos.

3. Open them in Camera Raw (cmd/ctrl + R)

4. Select them all in the Camera Raw filmstrip (cmd/ctrl + A)

5. From the ••• "More Image Settings" menu button in the toolbar select "Export Settings to XMP"

You can then close the Camera Raw dialog with Done or Cancel after the settings are written.



TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 18, 2021

The problem is that an older version won’t use presets as camera defaults

Yes, but I was hoping simply selecting a profile and nothing more, would (or may not) trigger an update to XMP. 

I can kind of see why just selecting a profile and nothing more might not do this and I can see why it should. The question is, bug or as designed? Might just have to ping some folks on the 'internal' forums but no guarantee an answer will result. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 18, 2021

@andrew_rodney The problem is that an older version won’t use presets as camera defaults. That is new too.

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Legend
August 18, 2021

@andrew_rodney 

I haven't, when I started this job (2014) I tested Lightroom and Bridge worked better for my needs. I don't even have LR installed on my work machine but its probably worth a test to see.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 18, 2021

Have you tired the same in Lightroom Classic? 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Legend
August 18, 2021

@andrew_rodney

I assumed it was by design because there is an explicit command in the UI to write settings to XMP. For my purposes, its just an annoyance because I know to do so but I can see it biting someone who didn't know.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 18, 2021

Might be a bug, might be by design; does anyone have old enough versions of ACR that DO write this to XMP? That would be really useful in getting the bug to the engineering team to fix. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 18, 2021

@Rikk Hi Rikk,

Please note that this indeed a bug!

Thanks,

Johan

-- Johan W. Elzenga