P: Support for Canon .CR3 Camera-matching Profiles

*JohannesP   I completely agree and would like to know if these cameras are ever going to see aa camera matching profile as the Adobe Admin indicated above that not all cameras will. This is super frustrating and definitely does cause serious problems with my workflow as well. Adobe, can you at least tell us if you're ever going to make those profiles for the  1DX3 or the R5/R6? If not - I'd rather know now before I continue to spend time and money with Adobe. Maybe we should all consider ditching Adobe for Capture One if they won't be supported with a camera standard profile.

Many people have been satisfied with the third-party profiles from colorfidelity.com (some not so much).  Read through previous posts in this merged threads for opinions.

Why conversations get merged:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-auto-import-to-folders-organized-by-date/5f5f44f14b561a3d422ab0ba?commentId=5f5f48984b561a3d422bdf45 

I actually don’t know anyone in my market that only shoots JPEG. Way back in my beginning newspaper days, we did that but after one of my first big gigs for SI as an assist back in college, that photographer had me shoot raw plus JPEG and I never looked back. 

*JohnMacLeanPhoto yes I ALWAYS shoot large (uncompressed) Raw plus large JPEG as a back up. I’m a photojournalist but since the nature of my clients is editorial marketing, I need to work from the raw files. Plus if I have a wicket weird exposure bc of backlight or part of a face that’s getting blown from harsh sun - that Raw file is key. I like editing from the raw for the best end results, the highest quality file and the least amount of damage to that file from the edit. www.caseybrookephotography.com is my site 😉 

I assume you're shooting raw, since these profiles are only available for them? You have an interesting hybrid approach, as I always think of PJ's as JPG shooters for time's sake. Do you have a website?

Maybe someone smarter than I have a hack for this - and if that’s you, please share. You’ll be my favorite person ever if you can or have a hack for this that replicates the canon color profile for these newer cameras. Or Adobe Engineers out there, I’m begging you to teach me how to reverse engineer these profiles or just to work on them ASAP before football season. I love that you’ve done that for other Canon cameras, and maybe it was the pandemic that is slowing things down but we’ve got the winter Olympics coming up and NFL football season, and it would’ve been nice if these were available before the Stanley Cup Playoffs. 

Hi John. I have always used camera matching standard for everything I shoot as a starting point. I’m a photojournalist on editorial assignments, and it’s not even a remote possibility to shoot reference images with an x rite. I am covering NHL hockey right now for the Stanley Cup, and the color changes rapidly with every goal, every time the screen flickers a darker color. I can’t rely on an x rite in a practical situation. Even if I did - it’s not going to be accurate frame to frame bc of the drastic color changes on a second by second basis. I can’t carry one around and hold it up in front of corporate partners when my job is to create candid content used for marketing decks. I’m certainly not going to do that I’m the middle of the Superbowl in the stands while reaching with long glass to cover the half time show. I don’t know any professional photojournalists that don’t use camera matching color profiles. I’m sure some do and I know everyone has their own preferences and that’s cool - we should all edit the way we each feel is best. For me, the camera matching standard profile is the perfect starting point for literally every assignment I’ve ever had. Adobe standard doesn’t even cut it anywhere in the ballpark. Adobe landscape seems to be the closest but it’s not the same and the color casts and not the same as what canon would pull like on the canon app. Color fidelity are decent but not worth it IMO. I just wish Adobe would get going to reverse engineer these profiles or tell us they’re not ever going to so I can find a software that will. As much as I love Lightroom, I would completely ditch it if they don’t get this done in a reasonable amount of time after a camera release - and I know I’m not the only pro that feels that way. 

*JohnMacLeanPhoto  I do not use any of the mirrorless or even the Canon 1DX3 bc if it doesn’t have a canon color matching profile, I find the camera basically useless despite how cool the AI and smart tracking is. The 3 pulls a lot more blue in skin tones and greens in open shade like the 1DX did. The 1DX2 has the most perfect skin color in 99% of situations with camera standard color matching. I like the color output of that camera better than any I’ve ever used. I use the orange hue bar and pull up or down to fix any increase in redness in skin and the orange saturation bar as needed if the skin pulls too strong for whatever reason in camera standard color matching. I only notice that happening occasionally in places like arenas where the color is already less than ideal. I also use a Fuji and use the Velvia color profile in camera with the WB +\- toward the top left corner to offset the strong pink hue that color output gives skin. I find the camera matching film preset outputs very nice for Fuji if I watch to flip flop to a different color profile. I’ve found over the last 18 years of working as a photojournalist that the base raw files seem dull, lifeless and almost overly flat and grey without using the camera color profiles. I’ve edited both ways with and without starting with a camera color profile, and I would never start my workflow without the canon color match profile and be happy with the final output of my content. It makes a massive difference in the feel of the images IMO. 

Hi Casey, I'm just curious which Canon profile you prefer for skin on your other bodies? I always felt the camera matching profiles were harsh, but we all have different responses. Have you tried making any with X-Rite Passport? I'd be interested in your comparison.