P: Ability to sync Lightroom Classic keywords with the Lightroom Ecosystem

@Antonine, I think it's not helpful if you start diverting the attention away from the issue at hand and instead go to the LR is shit argument... A software never is finished - it only is ever finished when it's development is stopped and it's discontinued!

I don't think it is on purpose, but what's obvious is that cloud/sync integreation on the working LR (aka classic) is still in beta stage and won't evolve anymore. Just the bare minimum to show "no, classic is not discontinued". Even though it seems to be... Buisiness decision. And it is understandable that the integration of new technologies (AI, sync, cloud, ...) in a dynosaure (LR classic...) is quite difficult without rewriting everything...

--> So why not rewrite everything and ensure the users are more trapped whitin the system in order secure recurrent revenues? This all makes sense and is understandable!

However, the new LR is also still in beta, does not respond the photographer's need (it's designed as a mobile app) and is obviously designed to secure the recurrent revenue, BEFORE delivering a decent software.
If the new LR were a great software, integrating all the working concepts of classic, whit additional features of sync, AI, web integration and all this... why not ? But it's not! It has too many flaws and omissions.

Now LR is divided in two, unfinished softwares:
1) Classic, which I belive a lot of people will still be using because it corresponds best to the photographer's need, which is SLOW and on which the sync integration is POOR (/bad/horrible).

2) The newly written LR which is not finished yet, which does not respond to the photographer's need and which first goal seems to be to 'trap' the user's in the 'cloud' ecosystem in order to make it as difficult as possible to switch to another software.

It certainly does feel like Adobe are going out of their way to make the experience of using CC Classic and CC together as bad as possible.

It certainly does feel like Adobe are going out of their way to make the experience of using CC Classic and CC together as bad as possible.

Guys!
AI or not, that’s not even the question. The fact is: keywords on one platform are not copied to another! It’s just nonsense...

Guys!
AI or not, that’s not even the question. The fact is: keywords on one platform are not copied to another! It’s just nonsense...

Gilles, I don’t think that any generic AI will ever be able to solve the more complicated issues. I have images of gendermixes (don’t know the correct english name for such a phenomenon) where an individual butterfly exhibits traits of both male and female forms but you only can tell if you correlate the species that are known to exist in that area with other information. It’s serious research to be able to keyword that image correctly. And don’t get me started on the orchid hybrids. Sometimes you are only able to identify the hybrid by knowing which species are adjacent, which insects pollinate said orchids, which flowering times are overlapping in the area (for example in more northern areas Orchis militaris and Orchis anthropophora have non overlapping flowering times, thus hybrids are highly unlikely to be created - just 700km further south the two species share flowering times and hybrids are plentiful. Only a highly specific AI would be able to determine the elder species - and that’s just a very narrow field.

IMHO no AI will be ever (at least in my hopefully not too short lifetime) able to replace the sort of keywording I need...

Okay Gilles you are maybe right,
We are all missing this point, adobe relies on AI aspect. But how does really care? AI is maybe a plus we need. Not a must have.

Meanwhile Adobe tries to detect a cat in the picture, Adobe should let us use Classic (a faster one) to compensate CC, let us use keyword the way we wan to uset.

Is printing an outdated workflow?
Is offline searching an outdated workflow?
LR CC is not able to search a sting of offline. 

In fact I thing it is more than that : Without the ability to manage our photos with this old school workflow (I mean keyword) we will not be able to switch to an LR competitive solution.

If adobe want us to use Ai, not problem. 
But let us use keyword the way we want,.

Personnaly keyword goes far beyond a simple description but is part of my workflow.
For example, I need to find easily photos without keyword. Something LR CC is not able to do

One thing I'm sure: AI will not be able to detect technical things or administrative/legal process, for sure. Myself will be able.

So once again, we do not want somebody explain us are not working the way Lr is designed. We want to see LR works the way we need. We pay for that. And it is very expensive.

Yes Karl, I understand your needs and you are perfectly right, even if I believe that AI will be able, in the near future, to identify this. 

Then Adobe needs to have a poll of what their users expect. I expect never to be able to use such an AI because I need to be precise in my keywords - I need to be able to find a "Bläuling" butterfly (meaning a group of butterflies that are predominantly blue) even though it is a butterfly of a suborder of that group that is metallic red...