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Inspiring
October 19, 2017
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P: Ability to sync Lightroom Classic keywords with the Lightroom Ecosystem

  • October 19, 2017
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Keywords do not sync correctly: When added on the mobile app (iOS), they do not appear in LR classic and not in LR Web (I deleted the new LR CC immediately, this version does not make sense to me).
Same problem into the other direction: Keywords from LR classic do not appear on the mobile app. 
Attention: At this stage the whole keywording within the iOS app should not be used!

372 replies

Inspiring
May 23, 2021

Why doesn't Adobe feel that this feature is not useful?  If they feel that Keywords are not important then why to they provide the ability to input keywords?  What use are keywords that are different between Classic and Mobile?  It is crazy that this bug has been here since the they started to sync, and they don't seem to want to fix it.  If they wont fix it they should remove keywording; but that would make people realize that there is a problem that most people don't know is there.

Participating Frequently
May 4, 2021

Hi,

 

I spent some time to ensure that my images in Lightroom Classic get the necessary keywords so I can retrieve them easily afterwards when I need them.

I just started syncing my collections to Lightroom and all appear nicely, however, when checking an image the keywords are not visible. Additionally, when searching for a keyword I know I applied, I get 0 results.

 

Is this expected behavior? Or did I do something wrong with the syncing?

Jim Wilde
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 4, 2021

No, you did nothing wrong, and yes it is expected behaviour. Keywords (and location data, face tags, presets) do NOT sync between Classic and the Lightroom cloud.

 

It is possible to effect a one-way and one-time transfer of Keywords and Location Data, but that can only be done the first time you sync images from Classic to the cloud. The trick is:

 

1. Ensure that smart previews of the images that you are planning to sync have NOT been created in Classic. If they have, select all the images and in the Library module on the menu bar do Library>Previews>Discard Smart Previews.

 

2. When you have added the keywords to the images (and Location Data if you do geo-tagging), select all the images and do Metadata>Save Metadata to File (Cmd/Ctrl+S shortcut). 

 

3. Start syncing the images. Because Classic only uploads smart previews, and because no smart previews exist in the catalog, Classic needs to generate them for uploading. In the process of generating those smart previews, the metadata that you saved to the original files (including the keywords and location data) is read and attached to the smart previews. Thus when they arrive in the cloud, those keywords/location data will be incorporated into your cloud catalog and you will see them and can search on them. Note, however, that Lightroom  does not support hierarchical keyword structures, so any such keywords will be "flattened", i.e. you will see them in a single continuous list.

 

As I said, that's a one-way thing....any keywords or changes to keywords added in Lightroom will not sync back to Classic (they do, of course, sync across the cloud system to any other Lightroom app you may be using).

Participating Frequently
May 4, 2021

Hi Jim, thanks for clarifying.

 

I generally always create smart previews on importing image from my camera for quicker editing.

I assume that is not an issue and I can do step 1-3 once I've added my metadata?

 

As mentioned, I've already synced some collections. How can I add tags to them?

Do I stop the syncing, remove them from lightroom, follow your steps and sync again?

Or what should I do?

DanielB_17
Participating Frequently
March 24, 2021

Concur with those who have stated that this is extremely disappointing. This makes using LR Cloud at an adjunct to LR Classic (which seems the most natural use case, but what do I know) even more limiting.

Is there a mechanism for moving information from the Cloud to Classic environment? What I mean is, if I want to mark a photo or set of photos in the Cloud and then use that knowledge once I'm in Classic... How can I do that? (Keywords, labels, comments all either don't work or have massive constraints). Right now I am using the photo Title as a stop-gap, which is obviously a horrible answer.

Really quite irritating.

Inspiring
March 14, 2021

It is hugely inconvenient that keywords don't synchronize between these two platforms. The extra work flow entailed to correct for this significantly reduces the usefulness of LR Mobile.

Please correct for this! 

Inspiring
February 21, 2021

Having a mobile app is great, but I need to sync keywords to and from Classic. After all, this is just software. Please add this feature to the next sprint to solve this limitation.

Community Expert
January 27, 2021

Yeah if you backup that folder you still have a backup of any file that gets deleted. However, be aware that your edits won't get backed up in that case. It is just the source file that gets backed up.

Antoine HLMN
Known Participant
January 27, 2021

Thanks for the precision, @jao_van_de_lagemaat !

Loosing any grip on the folder and album structure is just a big no no for me. This is synonym of total lock in with little or no way out.

The sync process might be deleting a file right away, but a backup strategy can still be applied on that specific folder, being TimeMachine or any other bakcup system.

Community Expert
January 27, 2021

>but not sure you can keep the folder/album structure on your local drive or even if you can choose the location.

You indeed cannot keep your preferred folder structure if you go full cloudy. It files local copies of your files in a single location using a simple dated folder structure. You can choose the location however but Lightroom Cloudy keeps the files organized in a strict structure in that single location. The important thing to realize is that this is not a strategy for backup but is only meant to provide quick access to your files and you won't have to download copies all the time in order to edit them. If you delete a file in the cloud, it will also immediately get deleted from this local storage!

Antoine HLMN
Known Participant
January 27, 2021

That wouldn't be needed because of how the different versions of LR work together. In short:

1) Classic and cloudy

* No keywords sync (so are stacks, color labels, ...)

* Only smart previews synced from Classic to the cloud, but they do not take storage 🙂

* Only way to have full res images in the cloud is via mobile, ...

2) Full cloudy:

* Keyword sync

* Ability to have full res in the cloud

* Limitations of cloudy compared to classic

* To be verified, but not sure you can keep the folder/album structure on your local drive or even if you can choose the location. That's a big no for me for several reasons. First reliability, pictures were lost in the cloud with no backup (!) and having them locally is a must. Then not having the folder structure on a local hdd (and the edits) would be a major barrier to migrate to another solution. The biggest no go for me.

    Participating Frequently
    January 26, 2021

    So I already pay for an individual subscription to the entire Creative Cloud.  The only way Adobe can get more money from me would be if keywording worked well between the Lightroom versions - I would then move my entire massive photo collection into the cloud and happily pay for the needed cloud storage.  Maybe there’s just not enough of people in my situation.