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Inspiring
June 4, 2011
Not Prioritized

P: Delete Images on Card after Import

  • June 4, 2011
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I would love to get an option to let LR automatically delete images from the card after they have been successfully imported. Images on the card that have not been imported, are let alone, of course.

It would serve two purposes for me:
1. It would save me deleting the images manually.
2. It would dramatically improve the experience of importing images from one card into different catalogs.

An incremental import of subsets of images on one card into a single catalog (but e.g., different folders) is well supported by the "New Photos" filter in the import dialog. However, when I switch catalogs while downloading images from a card -- because some subset of images on the card needs to go into a different catalog -- the "New Photos" filter no longer works. As a result, I have to remember and wade through a lot of images I already imported into a different catalog.

I realise that deleting images from the card is a sensitive issue. It must not happen prior to having verified that the image indeed has been copied (or converted) to a new location. Picasa supports this double checking.

As a safety net, Lightroom could offer a "restore deleted images" feature that would resurrect deleted files from cards. Users will find such a feature tremendously useful for other occasions as well.

I'd be happy with the following compromises as well:

* The option to delete images after import is available only if one activates a second backup location.

* Images are not deleted but the tracking of which images have already been imported is extended to work across catalogs. A record of what images still need to be imported could be associated with a currently inserted card.

113 replies

Inspiring
June 22, 2021

@andrew_rodney  as seems like you are quite familiar with Adobe's intentions, I'd like to understand two things (which I previously asked here twice, but without any response)
- Why would it be any safer to manually delete images _after_ importing + backing them up (which Lightroom can do already), than doing it automatically? A manual delete is asking for trouble: after a partial import, where not all the files were imported, or deleting/formatting the wrong card are very real and very dangerous situations. I am working with IT systems, backups and databases, and human error is by far the most dangerous component of any backup system/pipeline. Yes, you don't delete before you make backups. But you shouldn't ever delete by hand anything, because humans are very prone to failure. Much more, than backup media.

- if Adobe is so keen on protecting us and our precious photos, then why would Lightroom _do_ delete imported pictures from a CFast card, even if the backup drive was not online and so the automatic backup during import have failed. Because it does exactly that. It does delete the pictures from the CFast card, which were asked by the user to be backed up, but were not. (the difference is: CFast cards are percieved by Lightroom as external hard drive, not a removable media and they never care or think to test it) If there is actual reason behind this feature (or the lack of it), it must truly be evil. But I still vote on ignorance.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 22, 2021

I stand by the copy and pasted text from Sony, Canon and the URL provided; you can argue with those resources. I'm simply agreeing with them; nothing more. 

As for the “Move” command, try that with a camera card on import and see how far that gets you.

FWIW; examine the date of the first request for this “feature” and how far it's been taken seriously by Adobe! Stop ignoring what you perceive Adobe's stance to be on this subject. You are not helping anyone.

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Participating Frequently
June 22, 2021

@andrew_rodney You seem to have no understanding of what formatting actually does, yet you are extremely vocal on the subject. You're not helping anyone.

I doubt you will take this to heart, but I'll try anyway. Formatting is not a means to delete photos off your card. Your quoted Sony manual even mentions "for the first time". If you're arguing that deleting photos should happen in camera, then you should refer to actually deleting images through the camera controls, not formatting the file system on the card. But I will assume you consider this too cumbersome and prefer some convenience, which is why you go with redundantly formatting your card, a side effect of which is the loss of all data on the file system. You obviously like this convenience, but yet you're on this forum arguing against the requests for convenience by other users. 

You're claiming that you only want to educate people on why Adobe will not make this happen, because there could be potential file loss. Yet, there is a move operation already implemented into the import dialog. This move operation deletes files after they have been copied to a new location. There are zero checks to confirm the written files are identical to the read files. 

Stop arguing for what you perceive Adobe's stance to be on this subject. Again, you're not helping anyone.

Participant
June 20, 2021

Thanks for your reply!

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 20, 2021

I don't know until the images are off the card if the shots are of value. 

Anyway, you are more than welcome to make the request. I'm simply providing some details on why it is very unlikely you'll see it happen inside of any Adobe product (I've spent a few decades working with them). Of course I could be proven wrong and that's fine. LR has been around quite awhile and it isn't like some auto delete from card didn't occur to Adobe, I just don't see it ever being coded for the reasons expressed. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Participant
June 20, 2021

Having a shots of value I'd agree with you.

For the general use I don't. So why don't give the choice to the photographer.
You can leave them...I delete them when I want. I feel adult enough to take this choice.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 20, 2021

@Sebastian Müller The biggest issue would be users deleting images by mistake, Adobe controlling the ability (cross platform) of doing this, deleting important files prior to the user backing up (to more than one location) their images etc. I just don't see Adobe stepping into that possible rabbit hole. Can you imagine if a bug or something happened where LR deleted your only copy of images before you the user verified they data came over intact? Adobe gets vilified enough already, having the responsibility of deleting camera originals just seems far too risky to do for little benefit. Yes, it would save you about 40 seconds but it isn't worth the risk IMHO. 

I never, repeat never format my camera cards until I have two backups. But that's just me. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Participant
June 20, 2021

I see that formatting outside of the camera is not a helpful solution.
Still I miss the function to delete the pictures after a SUCCESSFUL import.
What's the problem about having this possibility as choice?

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 20, 2021

@bill_3305731 Forgive me (us?) if we take a conservative approach and RTFM and follow the manufacturers advise instead of your generalizations. 

The OP wants to erase/format as part of the import process; I get that, I read what he/she actually wrote. I provided some facts as to why this is very unlikely to happen above and beyond the fact that one should follow the manufacturers instructions and format the card in the camera, not on the computer, via LR. The OP didn't say anything about losing files that you imagined

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"