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Inspiring
April 19, 2017
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P: Local adjustments and crops don't copy or work in presets applied to rotated photos

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Copying Radial filter effect, between portrait format images in Ligthroom5, that were taken with opposite camera rotation (one rotated clokwise, other counterclockwise) results the effect appears on mirrored position. lightroom 5.7.1 Mac v

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johnrellis
Legend
February 13, 2020
Smit and Rikk, 

The problems reported here with copying local adjustments and crops between photos of different rotations still exist in LR 9.2:

- radial filters (the first post)

- adjustment-brush settings and crops

- spot removal

- graduated filters

I can't find a report here that was addressed by LR 9.2.  So I changed this topic from Solved to In Progress.
johnrellis
Legend
February 12, 2020
Smit K
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 12, 2020

Updates to Lightroom Classic, Camera Raw, and the Lightroom Ecosystem were released yesterday and contain a fix for this issue.  Please install the appropriate update and see if it solves this problem. You can read more about the updates here.

Thank you for your patience. 
Smit | Lightroom Team
johnrellis
Legend
December 10, 2019



From the merged thread:

I observe screwy but different results:

1. Open a raw in Develop.

2. Do Edit In Adobe Photoshop CC 2018.

3. In PS, do File > Save As, Format: Photoshop. Library thumbnails look like:



4. In LR, open the PSD in Develop.

5. Use the Adjustment Brush with Exposure = -4 to put a mark (the hand-drawn letters "UR") in the upper-right corner.

6. Do Rotate Right.



7. Do Edit In Adobe Photoshop CC 2018, Edit Original.  

8. In PS, do File > Save.

9. Observe the PSD's thumbnail preview in Library is incorrectly rotated from the original raw 180 degrees, with the mark added by the adjustment brush still in the lower-right corner:



10. Open the PSD in Develop and observe that it still appears correctly as it did after step 6:



11. In Library, select the PSD and do Library > Build 1:1 Previews. The thumbnail remains unchanged.

12. Export the PSD to a JPEG and observe that the exported JPEG looks like the PSD thumbnail in step 9.

13. Restart LR. 

14. Observe that the PSD thumbnail is now correctly rotated right 90 degrees from the original, with the adjustment-brush mark incorrectly in the upper-right corner:



15. Export the PSD to a JPEG and observe that the JPEG looks like the thumbnail in step 14.

16. Open the PSD in Develop and observe that it incorrectly looks like the thumbnail in step 14:



LR 7.5 / Mac 10.13.6.

Nature Mike
Known Participant
December 10, 2019



As of Lightroom Classic CC version 7.3 presets with a graduated filter now rotate depending on the orientation of the image.

For example. If I create a preset with a grad filter coming from the top of a horizontal image and apply it to a vertical image  the grad filter will come from the side instead of the top. This makes presets that utilize a grad filter pretty much useless and inconstant. Can we please get this issue fixed by the next release of Lightroom?

Thanks

Nature Mike
Known Participant
December 10, 2019


In Lightroom version 7.3, grad filter presets no longer rotate when switched from vertical to horizontal images and vice versa. This is a huge problem for me a fix would asap would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else having this issue? Any quick fixes out there?

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Lightroom Classic 7.3: Graduated Filter Orientation Problem.
Inspiring
December 10, 2019


Quick description of problem:
Apply a graduated filter at 0 degrees to a horizontally oriented photograph.
Save as preset or copy.
Now use preset or paste copy to a vertically oriented photograph.

Problem: The graduated filter changes orientation 90 degrees.

Anyone else experiencing?

Thanks.
Inspiring
December 10, 2019


[Update: This bug occurs for both crops and local adjustments.  See this post for a simple recipe to reproduce:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-cc-crop-syncing?topic-reply-list[se...
- John Ellis.]

Apple Mac, El Capitan, Latest LIghtroom CC release.
Workflow for Problem:

  • Original image edited in LR CC and cropped to 10x8.
  • Virtual copy made for reference
  • Revert original image to uncropped
  • Round trip original LR edit to latest Photoshop CC
  • Return to LR CC after saving [same problem as TIFF or PSD]
  • Using the virtual copy as the source, sync the crop to the image returned from Photoshop
  • RESULT - the crop doesn't match.
Cache purged, preferences reset. Not a large catalogue, only 350 images. Working on an internal drive.

Any suggestions?
johnrellis
Legend
December 10, 2019



This bug strikes both crops and local adjustments (both use the same internal representation of image coordinates). To reproduce in LR 7.0.1:

1. Select a raw landscape photo and rotate it to portrait.

2. Select the photo and export it back to the catalog as a JPEG:



3. Go to Develop and crop the JPEG to have a long narrow vertical crop.  With the local adjustment brush set to Exposure = 4 and paint a vertical stripe:



4. Select the JPEG and do Photo > Develop Settings > Copy Settings and check only Local Adjustments and Crop.  Select the raw and do Photo > Develop Settings > Paste Settings.  Note that the crop and local adjustment don't occur on the raw in the same place as on the JPEG:



Inspiring
December 10, 2019



This has been an issue for several versions. I was hoping the new Classic update would fix but it is still there.   Copying and pasting adjustments from or to an HDR image from a standard image often results in crops and local adjustments being applied in the wrong place. Seems like a rotation may be part of the issue.  Very annoying and time consuming to work around.  Please fix!  Thank you.