P: Presets including raw profiles are sometimes available for non-raws, sometimes not

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April 16, 2018
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[LR 8.1 now displays partially compatible presets in grey italics, which will avoid the confusion experienced by many users:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-presets-including-raw-profiles-are-...]

Presets including raw profiles via Treatment & Profile are sometimes visible in the Presets panel when a non-raw is selected, sometimes not. This is confusing.

- Presets including DCP raw profiles are visible for non-raws (Adobe Standard and all Camera Matching profiles).

- Presets including enhanced raw profiles are not visible for non-raws (Adobe Color, Monochrome, Landscape, Neutral, Portrait, Vivid).

This is clearly inconsistent behavior, since none of these raw profiles can actually be applied to non-raws. LR should either hide all such presets for non-raws or make them all available, ignoring the raw profile when the preset is applied to a non-raw.

I think it should make them all available for non-raws, given this use case: People often click the Check All button when creating a preset. When they round-trip a raw to Photoshop and get back a TIFF, they expect that such a preset should be applicable to the TIFF as much as to a raw, not remembering or knowing they clicked Treatment and Profile.

If LR makes none of these raw-profile-containing presets available for non-raws, then that will create another most frequent FAQ, "Why can't I see my preset?", analogous to "Where are the lens profiles?".

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FeedbackCommunityMember

Inspiring

I created a new preset which I would like to use on my other images also.
When I go to develop a new image that preset I created no longer appears on the list.
It only appears when I go back to the image I created the preset.

I am using a mac
Lightroom classic CC 7.5 release

JZaring

Participant

I can't remember having this problem before. I mess around with a lot of color science, so I create tons of presets delete, save export some to LUT's. In the past I did this with RAW, TIFF and JPEG and now my ridiculous amount of presets appear and disappear depending on the file.....even if I used the most generic profile.

JZaring

Participant

I just got done creating 4 of my own base camera profiles, all variations on the same color scheme and curves. Now I have the same problem I had when exporting LUT's from lightroom. I can't use the new profiles on jpegs, which also means I cannot create LUT's from my profiles. The LUT problem is fine because I can just use the original Lr develop preset I created, but even the presets aren't showing up for jpegs (without my custom profile) so really I can't create the LUT because the develop preset disappears for jpeg, which is best for creating LUT's. I feel like I just typed the same thing 5 different ways....but this is a very hard to describe problem that I never had before.

johnrellisAuthor

Legend

Another user gets confused: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2531093

dribble97

Inspiring

I rarely use Develop Presets. Since starting to use Lightroom I've added only three User Defined presets, the last one being added more than one year ago.

I added User Defined preset number 4 a few days ago. I tested the new preset with a couple of Canon raw files (CR2). It worked perfectly.

Having deliberately held off the update to Lightroom 7.5 I then allowed the update to proceed.

After the update completed I discovered that the new preset wasn't showing up for duty on JPG and TIF files, although it was visible and working on CR2 files. The older presets were visible and working OK for all file types.

I thought the problem was somehow connected to the update.

I found this thread after a couple of hours thrashing around trying to find the solution.

I can confirm that the problem is still present in Lightroom 7.5

I'm baffled and irritated.

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WebWorxTech

Participating Frequently

I will tinker around with it... and if I have issues... will let you know. Thanks for your help.

johnrellisAuthor

Legend

Hmm, in my configuration, that bug no longer occurs in 7.5.

Can you make a new preset with the desired settings and post a screenshot of the New Develop Preset window right before you click the Create button, with the Treatment & Profile box forced on?

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WebWorxTech

Participating Frequently

I copied and pasted this from the System Info:
Lightroom Classic version: 7.5 [ 1186149 ]
License: Creative Cloud

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WebWorxTech

Participating Frequently

I did update it... and it is 7.5.

johnrellisAuthor

Legend

This problem was fixed in LR 7.5. Do Help > System Info to verify your version -- if it's not 7.5, do Help > Updates.

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