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May 30, 2014
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P: When selecting a collapsed stack, provide option to apply changes to all photos in the stack

  • May 30, 2014
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In Lightroom 5.4, if I select a collapsed stack of photos in the Library module, I would like the option to automatically apply changes (e.g. metadata) to all photos within that stack.

Background: as a first-time Lightroom user, I used the auto-stacking feature so that my 3-shot bracketed (i.e. HDR) photos would be stacked together. With the stacks collapsed, I went through my library, selected multiple stacks, and typed in a GPS location to be applied to those photos. I assumed that by selecting the (collapsed) stacks, the metadata would be applied to all photos within those stacks. However, the GPS locations were only applied to the first photo within each stack.

After the fact, I learned that stacks must be expanded in order to select all photos within the stack. From my perspective, this defeats the purpose of creating stacks - if one must expand the stack to apply changes to all photos within the stack, there doesn't seem to be much point of creating stacks in the first place.

63 replies

Participating Frequently
February 7, 2021

The default behavior of lightroom when a stack is collapsed is to only work on the master file when I do things like rename the file, delete the file, etc.

I believe this is done to be Safe which is ok, however, it would be great if lightroom could prompt the user or all a user to configure it to apply things to the entire stack even if it's collapsed.

NetHawk
Known Participant
October 26, 2020

OK, good point. So this could be an option, to suit everybody's needs. I, for example do NOT keyword first. Right after the shoot I wan't to see results and do the bookkeeping work later. You also state, that often you don't want to keyword your brackets, but obviously sometimes you do want it. This clearly is a sign, that a feature is missing and that's why I suggested it here. There is always a way around a specific need. But in your first answer it alredy became clear, that this involves additional steps. So whenever a request can only fulfilled with extra work, this is a sign, that the workflow could be improved. I'm aware, that this is not a major issue, that's why it's not implemented (yet). I use Lightroom since the first version and over the years I could tick off many items from my wishlist. This is one of the few still remaining. Should I forget about it? Not mention it? I don't think so. It was time to talk about the less obvious feature request, because all in all Lightroom has become very mature and feature rich. Please consider to cut some corners, that's all I'm asking for.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 26, 2020

"This was already suggested in forums back in 2008 and it's hard to believe, that this is not a common request, even if it's not high priority."

Apparently most people do not see this as a major issue. For example: I usually keyword my photos before I start creating stacks. And I often do not want the brackets to contain the keywords of the HDR, because I do not want to find HDR brackets if I search by a certain keyword. I only want to find 'finished photos', i.e. the HDR photo.

-- Johan W. Elzenga
NetHawk
Known Participant
October 26, 2020

Thanks for your answer. I'm aware of that, but this is an additional step, that sometimes is forgotten and should not be required at all. I also have stacks that I want to be expanded (e.g. different views) and others that I don't (e.g. bracketed shots). And if you want to apply keywords to hundreds of images, the default behaviour should be something that is the most expected. And at least for me, that is applying keywords to ALL photos, not only the ones that are on top of the stack.

If you move a bunch of photos all the stacked ones come with it. For me, that's prove, that photos in a folded stack should be treatet like the one on top of the stack, not only when moving, but also when keywording.

This was already suggested in forums back in 2008 and it's hard to believe, that this is not a common request, even if it's not high priority.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 26, 2020

It's already very easy to do this and do it quickly. Shift-click on the small number in the left corner of the stack. That will expand the stack and select all its members. Enter your keywords and they will be applied to all the images.

-- Johan W. Elzenga
NetHawk
Known Participant
October 26, 2020

I'm pretty sure, this has been suggested before, so this is to support former requests: when adding keywords to images, these are not applied to photos that are stacked. However, in most cases, stacked photos need the same keywords that are applied to the top-in-stack photo.

johnrellis
Legend
March 27, 2020
I fully agree. A couple of workarounds that ameliorate a bad situation:

- Shift-click on the stacking badge in the upper-left corner of the stack thumbnail you want to reject. That will expand the stack (not unstack its photos) with all the stacked photos selected. Then type "x".  (Unfortunately, there's no keyboard shortcut equivalent of shift-click.)

- With stacks collapsed, mark the ones you want to reject by typing "x". Then run the Syncomatic plugin, which copies the rejected flag from the stack tops to the other photos in the stacks.
Elkanan
Known Participant
March 27, 2020


Having to "unstack" photos before either reject or delete is a waste of time. Allow these hotkey operations in both Develop and Library Modes please.
john beardsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 16, 2019
My Syncomatic plugin has been doing this for (I'm not sure how many) years. It can sync all metadata and adjustments within stacks.
Inspiring
October 15, 2019
Probably not really important in this thread, but I have just created a plugin which syncs flag status across stacks: https://github.com/wrygiel/stacksync.lrplugin (very limited functionality, but that's just enough for my own needs)