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Participant
May 30, 2014
Not Prioritized

P: When selecting a collapsed stack, provide option to apply changes to all photos in the stack

  • May 30, 2014
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In Lightroom 5.4, if I select a collapsed stack of photos in the Library module, I would like the option to automatically apply changes (e.g. metadata) to all photos within that stack.

Background: as a first-time Lightroom user, I used the auto-stacking feature so that my 3-shot bracketed (i.e. HDR) photos would be stacked together. With the stacks collapsed, I went through my library, selected multiple stacks, and typed in a GPS location to be applied to those photos. I assumed that by selecting the (collapsed) stacks, the metadata would be applied to all photos within those stacks. However, the GPS locations were only applied to the first photo within each stack.

After the fact, I learned that stacks must be expanded in order to select all photos within the stack. From my perspective, this defeats the purpose of creating stacks - if one must expand the stack to apply changes to all photos within the stack, there doesn't seem to be much point of creating stacks in the first place.

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Participant
January 28, 2019
I think that after a while people just give up on Adobe.  Also, I wonder what the "vote" equivalence is - that is how many users are represented by one user's vote.  Most users don't know about this site and most users are complacent; they just take what's handed to them. One person actually figuring out that a feature is needed, finding this site, and then taking time to request that feature must represent thousands if not tens of thousands of users who would actually benefit from the feature.

I'd love to hear from them why such an obviously needed feature is so hard for them to implement.  
Bob Somrak
Legend
December 17, 2018
Jeffery Tranberry is a recent voter so maybe something will get done
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Legend
December 17, 2018
More people need to add their 'me too' vote at the top of the page so that Adobe sees that there is interest in the feature. Currently only 29 voted for it over the past 5 years.
Known Participant
December 17, 2018
Well then, how can we get them to "plan" it?
Legend
December 17, 2018
The status of this request is currently shown as 'Not planned', so everyone is going to be waiting for quite some time.

In the meantime add your vote/get others to vote, then Adobe's position on this request may change to at least 'Under consideration'.

Personally, if it does come to fruition, I hope it would be an optional setting.
After years of treating stack operations the current way, it could result in mistakes in applying settings if it starts working just the new way.


Known Participant
December 17, 2018
Oh boy, there's quite a list of things that are deeply, deeply annoying about LR.
The problem is that we put up with it because apart from its "interesting" quirks, it is a pretty good program. And Adobe damn well knows this fact. They don't give a monkey's toss about small bugs, as long as big features are hoiked in and most users are happy enough to keep paying.
Inspiring
December 7, 2018
I hear it's on the list to be done on 2048.

2019, almost. Still not done. Sheesh. Copy directories in lightroom still occasionally bombs. Not always. Enough to be annoying. Such a great and powerful program, and they let dumass stuff irritate you.
johnrellis
Legend
September 3, 2018
It's pretty clear to me that Adobe isn't going to add the option that many of us want. The Syncomatic plugin is a good (though not as convenient) workaround.
Participant
September 3, 2018
Sreenivas, as folks have indicated throughout the many replies in this thread, I don't think your expectation matches the reality of how people use Lightroom, at least in some cases. Especially when it comes to bracketed/HDR shots, I want to treat all of those images together as one "unit", and auto-stacking based on capture time is usually the easiest way to accomplish that. However, as Armin notes, by default the flag/metadata/whatever only applies to the top image of the stack. You have to expand the stack and select all of the images in the stack to make changes (e.g. rate/flag the image, apply metadata, etc.) This adds a lot of time to the workflow of processing bracketed photos.

As Dan said, there are other valid workflows in which applying a flag, metadata, etc. to all images within the stack would NOT be desirable - hence why having an option to "apply to all in stack" would be useful. I like the idea of having a system-level setting that would allow the user to specify the desired behavior, as I'm guessing that most users tend to use stacks predominantly in one way or the other.
Califdan2
Inspiring
August 24, 2018
I agree to both sides of this discussion.  There are times when I wish my changes (color label, pick flag, star rating, keyword application, etc.) to apply to just the top image of selected but collapsed stacks.  But, there are just as many times when I want the change to apply to the entire stacks.  

For example, let's say I'm applying a keyword such as "Paris".  Presently that KW will only be applied to the top image of the stack where it should apply to all images in the stack.  This gets really problematic when later I move a different image from the stack to the top position.  In this case that image would not have the "Paris" KW and if I filter for "Paris" would not show up.

Another example is where a KW shows a count of 100 images (number shown in KW List).  So, I filter on that KW, select all images and remove that KW from the images.  Now the image count still shows, say, 13 images, but none show up in the grid (as they are buried in collapsed stacks).  To find the missing 13 images would entail expanding all stacks in the catalog (90,000 images) so the filter would find them and then re-collapsing all stacks - and thus losing state of which stacks had previously been expanded or collapsed, or using some other cumbersom workaround.

What I've suggested several times is that when making a metadata change to a set of selected images, if you want the change (whatever it is) to apply to all images in selected stacks, hold down the Alt or Ctrl or CMD key.  Couple this with a set up setting for the default behavior of either "consider all images in collapsed stacks" vs "don't consider images in collapsed stacks" and use the control key on a case by case to override the default for that one operation.

In case anyone is interested, I have written a blog on a somewhat simple workaround for this problem (but most users would not know about this).  You can see the blog here:
https://www.danhartfordphoto.com/blog/2017/12/lr006---show-images-buried-in-stacks-when-using-lr-fil...

Thanks -- Dan