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October 19, 2017
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P: Please add advanced keywords - controlled vocabulary

  • October 19, 2017
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Lightroom CC and Keywords.
It appears that the CC version only has limited support for keywords. For those of us who have spent years collecting or building controlled vocabularies, this would be a critical requirement and is a potential game-changer in respect of migrating to the CC version. Dealing with 10,000 bird species in a variety of languages including scientific binomials ain't going to be fun in a flat keyword list. I recognise that for people who only want 'blue', 'sky', 'holiday' this won't be important, but for digital asset management it is pretty up there.
Support for a continuation of hierarchical controlled vocabularies would be much appreciated.

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Victoria Bampton LR Queen
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Community Expert
September 17, 2019
That's useful info, thanks for sharing!
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Inspiring
September 14, 2019
That IS a great use case for Mylio.

If you ever do need to do more, note that Classic (not CC/Lr/Cloud) works pretty good with Mylio since it too references files, and since metadata can be read/written back and forth to them, and then synched by Mylio. At least with raw files. That's what I did. But the lack of proper DNG support put an end to that.
Inspiring
September 14, 2019
As far as I can tell, Lightroom CC won't allow you to leave your files organized in the original directory structure on your hard drive, which is something I really liked about LR Classic.  I have a home file server with all of my photo files in a YYYY/MM directory storage format that is backed up continuously in multiple locations with all of my other important files, so CC's proprietary file storage format is a dealbreaker for me. (Same reason I dislike iPhoto.)

I don't do a lot of editing of my photo files, so I'm okay with the limited functionality mylio has in that regard.  I need a system that allows my wife to add photos to our server from her iPad or iMac and lets me do the same thing from my Android phone or Windows 10 computer. As the photos are added, the original directory structure on the file server needs to be maintained.  I also want a system where both of us can easily add and edit metadata within the stored files on our server independently from one another and where we can each view all of our photos on our mobile devices wherever we are.  Mylio works perfectly for all of that.  It is very flexible in how photos are added to our system, and it keeps everything--including ALL metadata--in perfect sync and up to date on all of our devices.  Plus, it does a great job of managing storage on the mobile devices (by using thumbnails and preview files), and it only costs $10 a month for up to five devices.  Oh, and on top of all that, if I did want to edit my photos, it allows the photos to be opened in Photoshop or almost any other editing software from within the mylio app.

In the Lightroom ecosystem, to get anything close to the above functionality, I would need two licenses (one for my login and one for my wife's), two different apps on each computer (Classic and CC), synchronization to the mobile devices would need to be managed manually on each computer (since smart collections don't sync to mobile devices and since storage capacity on the mobile devices is limited), AND keywords wouldn't sync.  Clearly not ideal.   

I have uninstalled both Lightroom Classic and CC from my system--no need for either with mylio.
Inspiring
September 13, 2019
David can speak for himself, but as a former Mylio subscriber I'd say it's biggest strength is synching. You've got more options to control that (locations, size of images synched, LAN synching, and so on). Plus synching all sorts of metadata (when I used it only flat keyword synching). Not sure why they can manage such metadata synching when Adobe can't, or won't. It doesn't have nearly the adjustment prowess of Lr, or plugins, publishing, printing, etc etc. But synching is great.

Mylio can also read lots of basic adjustments done in Adobe products, like exposure, crops, and so on. So it can work with Classic; that's how I used it. But as Adobe's synching and mobile apps improved I didn't feel the need for it anymore. There are still some features it has I'd love to see in Lr (LAN synching, metadata) but not enough to go back to Mylio.
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
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Community Expert
September 13, 2019
Great to hear you've found a solution you're happy with David. Out of interest, are you using Mylio alongside Lightroom Classic? Or instead of it? What does Mylio give you that the Lightroom Cloudy ecosystem (ignoring Classic) was missing? 
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Participating Frequently
September 13, 2019
Seems like such an obvious feature doesn't it? I'm still using Classic as the main source with some light syncing to CC for Mobile. But I sure hope someone is listening.

They pulled the same dumb move with their faces implementation too. I have tens of thousands of faces manually tagged in classic and the new feature in CC is completely unrelated. Adobe just seems to drop our data like it means nothing.
Inspiring
September 12, 2019
I sure am happy I found out about the problem with keyword syncing before I paid for a subscription to Lightroom CC.  Lightroom Classic does pretty much everything I wanted it to do except sync to mobile devices.  I thought it was pretty cumbersome needing to sync through CC, but I was ready to live with it.  I was also ready to live with the fact that I would also need to buy a Lightroom license for my wife's computer, just so she would be able to sync our shared photo drive to her mobile devices.  I thought it was a no-brainer that keywords would move back and forth between synchronized files from all of the devices, but NO!

I just downloaded mylio, and it is EXACTLY what I need, plus I only have to pay for one license for five devices for $10 a month.  Sorry Adobe, but I am uninstalling Lightroom this afternoon.
Inspiring
July 29, 2019
Can't understand why this important feature was missed (or ignored) in the conceptual idea. Keywording is one of more important features of LR. I don't care whether its a hierarchy or flat - but it should sync in some form 
Inspiring
June 21, 2019
One big benfit of Lightroom CC is to already work on your pictures while you're not at home (keyword travel fotography) and have them syncronized back to Lightroom classic once you are back. So not being able to use keywords that you enter while you are still on location is a big drawback and doesn't make sense to me. I also hope the Adobe will bring that feature soon.
Inspiring
May 28, 2019
The workaround I use is I tag my images from my phone and then I can call them with the filter and put the needed metadata on the whole group of photos. It's not keywords, but it's a synchronizable field, so it works for that.