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Ultimatebeetle
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May 31, 2024
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Adobe should make opt-out to all of gen ai feature for users.

  • May 31, 2024
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Not only photoshop, all of softwares by adobe.

Many artists who using adobe products don't want to using & supporting generative ai at all.

we have rights to opt-out from these things like generative ai tools in software, unwanted ads and nofitications.

66 replies

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 31, 2024

Content aware fill is fine, because it uses data already in the image. It's predictable. It doesn't pull in anything external.

 

There is a very clearly visible red line here, and it's where the algorithm uses outside data. I don't have enough technical insight to know how Adobe Sensei is different from Firefly, but there is a clear functional distinction that is easy to see. It's the generative part that I don't like and don't want.

 

Ethically, I think this is very clear cut. It's about passing off work as your own, when you didn't actually do it.

 

Obviously, there's a whole range of advanced tools that let you alter an image substantially. That's fine, that's why you use Photoshop in the first place. Any experienced photographer knows that a photo is not reality, it's an interpretation of reality. There's a lot of leeway there. But you're in charge, you decide what the finished result is, and you have to do the work to get there.

 

Oh, and BTW, it would be very easy. Just a checkbox that yanks out the virtual internet cable.

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 30, 2024

I'm guessing that there is no issue with AI trained features such as select subject or with content aware fill?

 

Don't Adobe already prefix the word Generative?

Legend
August 30, 2024

Maybe just labeling which tools and filters use AI and which don't would be enough.

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 30, 2024

I'm for this. I don't mind opt-out, it could be a checkbox in Preferences to disable Firefly. The point is that some of us feel things are crossing an ethical line nowadays, and we prefer to stay on the other side of that line.

 

You can choose to not use the tools, but that line is pretty blurred by now.

Legend
August 30, 2024

Maybe you want opt-in? That's where you have to choose to use them? Opt-out would be tools being automatically applied to your image and you having to decline. Tools are already opt-in. You have to manually choose to use them.

Participant
May 31, 2024

Photoshop has become so laden with AI tools it is difficult to use without. I am a photojournist and photo instructor so very constrained it what editing tools I can use -- and teach -- for ethical and professional reasons. Lightroom is probably the best alternative, but I am not crazy about it and there are some things you can't do in LR that you can in PS. Do others in the community have this concern? What does Adobe suggest? 

davescm
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 31, 2024

There is a huge ethical difference between AI tools which are just using AI to make the tool work better, for example to make more accurate selections, and generative AI functions which, as the name suggests, generate new image content.

I would continue to use Photoshop but just avoid those generative AI functions.

 

Dave