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June 30, 2011
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P: Ability to update/edit brush presets [2011]

  • June 30, 2011
  • 65 replies
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This is a no-brainer that should make its way ASAP into 13.

Provide users with a way of tweaking their brush settings and then SAVING OVER an existing brush preset, rather than having to create a new one.

The brush preset system that has been in place since 5 is a broken user experience. You always create a "throwaway" brush (tip) when you Define Brush Preset, and then you customize its settings and create a New Brush. Then, if you don't like those settings and want to improve them, you are stuck having to create yet another brush preset, and eventually deleting the others.

Come on guys, we need something just a little more polished. It's been over ten years now. Fix some basic stuff before launching into crazy new directions like 3D.

For the most intuitive user experience, the workflow should be revised.

Creating brushes should be a two-step process:
1. create a "brush tip" - these are the sampled pixels only, with no Brush configuration data attached
2. create a "brush" - by selecting a brush tip and then setting your options.

If you then want to edit an existing preset and save over it, why not present us with familiar options like Save and Save As? Put a little "save" icon and a "clone" icon in the Brushes palette. Let us know when we're editing an existing brush preset, and put the title of the brush preset in the palette. Basic basic stuff.

65 replies

Michael Elmkjær Madsen
Known Participant
March 12, 2019
Couldn't agree more - much needed feature - its so frustrating having to make a NEW BRUSH everytime you change a setting in a custom brush. Just like we can update layercomps ? Come on Adobe - we got the new brush preset manager - this needs a serious overhaul. 
Inspiring
August 30, 2018
I created a nice set for spider web brushes, but with the inverse colors I need. >.< Would be nice to doubleclick on a brush, make edits (eg: invert) and save, as on library items.

Participating Frequently
June 7, 2018
I use brushbox to sort brushes in to various categories - which is preferable to the native version.  
 But I would love an 'update brush preset' button and a way to save a set of brush settings to apply to newly created brushes. I have lots of brushes created from images that share the same spacing, dynamics etc.  Would be good to have an 'apply saved set' to new brush option. 
Inspiring
April 25, 2018
Krita manages to do it....
Inspiring
December 23, 2017
I've just started to use Photoshop and I'm constantly trying to tweak my presets as I learn but instead of tweaking them I have to recreate them and remember all the settings I set in the first place.  
chazcron_
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2017


Why can't the user edit brushes already existing in a set? I have a set I've been using for years and wish I could change the brush settings individually without having to recreate the entire set. Am I missing something here? As I understand it, once you've made and pasted a new brush in a set, you can't tweak a settting without creating a new brush, deleting the old one and moving the new one in its place. I'd be glad to be proven wrong and show me how.
chazcron_
Participating Frequently
October 31, 2017
And yet, you still can't edit and update existing brushes in a custom set.
Known Participant
October 18, 2017
It's a beautiful thing. Almost verbatim what I suggested 6 years ago (wow, that long?) but even better. Pretty sweet.
Known Participant
October 18, 2017
Just noticed this in the Photoshop CC.2018 October update notes:

Better brush organization
Organize and save your brushes in the order you want. Drag and drop to reorder, create folders and sub-folders, scale the brush stroke preview, toggle new view modes, and save brush presets with opacity, flow, blend mode, and color.

Could it be?
Participating Frequently
March 31, 2017
yes please, this is one of the things that forced me to switch to manga studio for most of my work.  whenever i want to make a small tweak to a brush in PS and keep its hotkey, i need to:

1 - Make the change to my brush and create a whole new brush preset
2 - Check the name of the original brush and type it in for the new preset
3 - Delete the old version of the brush so my hotkeyed brush selection action selects the new one properly based on the same name and there being no duplicates, so that way i dont need to re record an action for it
4 - Open brush manager to move the new brush from the end of the brush list (where new ones are put) to where it belongs in my organized list where i use blank presets called "---------------" as separators because i need too many brushes
5 - Play around abit with the new hotkeyed brush and realize it needs more tweaking, do the tweaks, and when its just right i accidently switch tool to momentarily erase or something before making a new preset out of that perfect new brush setting, so the ideal changes are lost because brushes dont remember modifications (there is no option for them to do so, like lock/unlock a brush maybe), changing tool and reselecting brush always resets the changes
6 - repeat


compared to manga studio:
1 - got a nice hotkeyed brush that i want to make changes to
2 - press "unlock tool" (so the changes to the tool automaticaly save)
3 - make changes to brush, draw abit, erase abit, looks good,  hit "lock tool", done
(or duplicate the original to iterate nondestrutively, then unlock the duplicate, make changes to it, this new brush will have the same hotkey as the original, and you can just change it to a new hotkey if want. per brush, no need to make actions to select brushes via hotkeys and re-record those actions if you rename a brush or have duplicate name. each brush gets a new hotkey line in the options for its name.

There is alot more simple workflow speed problems with PS than that compared to manga studio etc, and some simple functions that i find hard to believe that something big as PS cant do yet (for example multi layer freetransform/warp of selected partial area without multistep workarounds), but alot of them can be worked around with clever autohotkey and such, but the brush problem is way too complex to automate, for me anyway