P: Rotatable pattern fills

OK... folks...obviously this comes 2 plus years to late for those that started this forum and brought to life the issue at hand with regards to the effectiveness of dealing with patterns, (especially Seamless) in the almighty Photoshop

And although the responses I received from the qualified staff ... made good points .. unfortunately at no time was I either assured that the issue was being addressed (now years in the making) or that I had options ..

Turns out that the team of developers responsible for Adobe Illustrator appreciate the importance of rotating patterns, as it can easily be done in AI ... it is a shame that the only thing missing from the Photoshop version ..is the rotation of the placed pattern (oddly this feature IS AVAILABLE with every other aspect of what photoshop can do.

So... you can deal with the patterns in AI and then once the rotational angels have been met ...import back to Photoshop ...IF needed.... Yes extra steps... but over all problem solved... now lets see if I can salvage that side job I let slip through my fingers ...

Jerry

Cris Cox and Photoshop Family....I am not trying to get into a spitting match here... and I am not expecting an instant response form adobe.... forgetting the fact that the initial request followed by multiple other requests for the same is well over 2 years old... or the fact that the same feature already exist in a few other locations already (I know i assume that simply adding it elsewhere is easy) I know it is not.

BUT ONCE again ....my initial comment was in reply to your request for proof that our request for this feature was even prudent. and my off the cuff reply was it is because someone has asked ...no make that an entire forum of folks have asked.

I think 2 years clearly states that those that asked were not considered or that the feature does not warrant further consideration ... which I surly at least hope you can agree the feature would be extremely helpful...

NOW seriously I love adobe , Photoshop and everyone in the Family ...ok !!...in fact i was using the AGFA products that were around before adobe bought that division. in the beginning of time.... anyways have a happy 4th 5th and 6th for that matter... but sorry on the 7th ..you are on your own !! hehe

jerry Rice

And neglecting the thousands of feature requests we receive from millions of users -- they can't all be implemented instantly.

Christoph, Thank you for your reply and your points are well taken and duly noted.
First ... my comment stems from not the lack of the feature... but the comment from a power to be requesting the public outcry so as to justify the features existence.

Am I wrong or in appropriate in any way suggesting the NEED for the ability to fine tune the powerful ability that comes with the insertion of a pattern, would my complaint be any more acceptable if I were un able to scale that pattern... I think not.. it just seems almost forgotten about... perhaps you are not a designer and or even an avid user of the program....

and although ultimately it is not Adobe's fault ... but the fact is...due to the inability for me to accurately make better use of the Patterns used in my project...YES I will be losing my consideration for this project..which strangely by the way... was not completed by 3 previous designers.... as it would appear that this missing and or over looked feature is the killing point to create a more accurate polished "real-Like" rendering.

As for my assumed disregard for the effort and or cost of implementing such a feature.. (again not rocket science... the same feature is evident in several other locations in the app. I of coarse do not know what the costs are and can only assume that great effort is utilized throughout.

In the end I am but a mortal compared to the kings and Queens that make my life possible... I apologize for sounding off... but again... I was merely responding to the comment, requesting for validation to consider such a feature.

Jerry Rice

»Hey how about adding the darn feature because one person suggested it...«
Are you complaining that a feature that does not exist threatens to cost you a job and thus money but want Adobe to invest their resources into implementing all feature requests any one user makes?

»you don't have to be a brain surgeon to see the benefit of rotating a pattern«
Has anyone contested the benefit?
But you seem to be neglecting (or unable/unwilling to appreciate) the effort and cost of implementing the feature.

Hey how about adding the darn feature because one person suggested it... you don't have to be a brain surgeon to see the benefit of rotating a pattern....I mean Come on Adobe... especially for Photoshop ..without this feature I stand to lose a side job worth about 7 grand.... so thanks !!! ...perhaps it is time to shop around for 3rd party... 4th 5th even 6th party....

Yeah well, it would have to be multiplied by a certain amount, only a very small percentage of us actually tries to get the software less buggy / more polished and move over here to do so.

I did not even know that button existed either, you can add that factor to the calculus as well I guess.

»I still have no idea why it has not been implemented yet. «
25 people added their support to the request – that’s not that impressive, I suppose.

I still have no idea why it has not been implemented yet. We have angle adjustments for almost every subtypes of layer styles, this is just inconsistent.

Like the previous artists mentionned, it destroy the non-destructive design flow which is supposed to be the most important point about photoshop which brought the layering in the first place, and it is time consuming to modify the pattern or to create a shape with the correct pattern and mask every time for such a simple task.

Hey, i created some fast moqup about how i would like to use the blending options and specially the pattern feature. Feel free to edit the picture if you have some better ideas.



Sorry about the finnish language in the picture.

The features i am asking is:
-Rotating the pattern.
-Changing patterns perspective by numeric or manually. Scaling widths and
heights of the pattern. In my moqup there is not those number fields, but it should include these.
-Zoom button that helps scaling it manually.