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hijax_pl
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July 21, 2011
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P: Support for native full-screen mode on macOS

  • July 21, 2011
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I must say that full screen apps is a wonderful idea. I can start in such a way some of the apple apps (safari, imail, numbers) - I like switching between them. It will be desirable to enable this option for Ligtroom & Photoshop (both CS and Elements) to behave in similar way under new Mission Control stuff...

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    J453
    Legend
    March 28, 2012
    @12711110, it would get complicated/messy to have them coexist and to try to support. We are really hopeful that Apple has more magic up it's sleeve and will continue to enhance OS X full screen mode. We're actually pretty excited about the feature ourselves.
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    Anonymous
    March 28, 2012
    I never buy this thinking, its like Photoshop snobbery. There are a lot of things that are not easily accessible with the keyboard even with custom shortcuts.
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      Anonymous
      March 28, 2012
      Jeffrey, thanks for the response.

      The multi-display problem would be annoying, but in regards to the OS X Fullscreen mode only allowing a single document window: don't multiple documents in tabs get treated as a single document window, could entering OS X Full screen mode force all the open documents into tabs?

      As a sidenote, have their been some improvements to the document tabbing system, I find myself using it a lot more than I used to? I used to find it annoying but somehow it seems more usable now. (maybe it psycho-semantic)
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      VorteXLP
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      March 28, 2012
      @Jeffrey: Why not implement both? Icon in the top-right will activate Apple's fullscreen mode, pressing F activates Photoshop's own?
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      VorteXLP
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      March 28, 2012
      @Jeffrey: Why not implement both? Icon in the top-right will activate Apple's fullscreen mode, pressing F activates Photoshop's own?
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      J453
      Legend
      March 28, 2012
      I thought I'd take a moment to outline OS X's fullscreen mode in relation to Photoshop's Full Screen Modes and explain why we stuck with our Full Screen Mode:

      Here's the short story: If we replace Photoshop's Full Screen mode with the native 10.7 full screen mode, then our users will loose the following functionality:


      • The ability to use multiple displays while in fullscreen mode

      • The ability to switch between different document windows while in fullscreen mode


      This in not something our long time users have said they want to give up.

      That said, it's possible that Apple may change the full screen mode in OS X in the future to include this functionality in the future – and we'll continue to evaluate if it meets all our users needs.

      Here's the longer story with more details:

      Photoshop's full screen model is a per display mode. This means that in multi-displays configurations, some displays may be in Full Screen Mode while others are not. Photoshop's full screen display can can also contain one or more document windows. When a display is in Full Screen Mode, then all document-windows on that display will be full screen when they are brought forward. Photoshop's model has two full screen modes: Full Screen with UI (including the OSX menu bar) and Full Screen without UI (in this mode the OSX menu bar is hidden).

      The native full screen implementation in OS X 10.7 is a single display mode. When you enter fullscreen mode on a given display, then all other displays become dark (and windows are hidden on dark displays). Dark displays can contain UI for the active application (but not documents).

      When you enter the OSX fullscreen mode, then a new (temporary) Space is created for the fullscreen window. Only a single document window lives in this new Space. This means that you cannot switch between different document windows while in fullscreen mode (command-tilde does nothing).
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        FeedbackCommunityMember
        Inspiring
        March 28, 2012
        YES, absolutely yes. I also don't understand the workings of the software, but Adobe seems to be switching to the Application Frame-type windows for all CS6 applications, and it seems like it would (theoretically) be trivial to add fullscreen to the application frame (obviously with the older panel-based interface, this would have been more difficult). This should have been one of the "just do it" features from the minute Lion was introduced.

        Working on a laptop, the ability to rapidly swipe between applications is a HUGE time saver, and while I can make a new desktop and put Photoshop there, it invariably ends up getting cluttered with other application windows.
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        lmabe10
        Participant
        March 27, 2012
        I think OS X Lion full screen mode would absolutely be the BEST upgrade feature in my opinion. After using the Beta I am very pleased to see many improvements, however, as many users have mentioned before, my workflow gets screwed up when I throw an Adobe application into the mix. I eventually quit using Dreamweaver for this reason, but there is really no alternative to Photoshop. Therefore, I am excited for the possibility of have a fullscreen version with the impending full release of CS6.
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        Gaerraty
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        March 23, 2012
        I hope that you don't *only* design Photoshop for masterful users. 🙂
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        Gaerraty
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        March 23, 2012
        I just cannot get menu bar to show up in "Fullscreen mode" in CS5.1 or CS6. In Lightroom 3 menu bar shows up.
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