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skilled_thinking15A8
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
August 31, 2017
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Photoshop: Add Dodge & Burn tools in Select and Mask

  • August 31, 2017
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I'm a big fan of Select and Mask but I miss 2 tools in it:
- Dodge (set on Highlights) to clean up quickly by lightening the white "dust" of the mask
- Burn (set on Shadows) to clean up quickly by darkening the black "dust" of the mask

The ideal integration will be to have a non-destructive local adjustment like with the Lightroom local Adjustment Brush (pin).

19 replies

Inspiring
September 3, 2017
I'll look forward to it. Ideally, we'll get D&B tools, Brush blend modes,  Color Range tools inside S&M, and I'm sure others can come up with other must-haves, and having to run it twice every time will become a thing of the past, but in the meantime. . . every trick helps.
skilled_thinking15A8
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
September 3, 2017
I will record a quick video back to my trip in a week+.
Inspiring
September 2, 2017
I'll admit I don't understand the working method that uses Select and Mask twice. Currently I use it once, then go into ReMask to finish, preferring tedious but successful, to quick but dirty.<G>  Unless, of course, painting with blend modes to assist is all that's needed for the clean up. It seems to me, too, that as much as I'd like to rely upon the Refine Edge brush because I like not thinking as often as possible, it's not really working yet to throw out Calculations and Apply Image as mask-making helpers.

Mind, there are situations where what I'm compositing doesn't really require all that great a mask—or I'm not compositing at all, so it's not going into a new environment—but for those many times that do, I need to know as many techniques as I can master to get there. Some are bound to be more successful and less tedious than others. A quick video that shows why and how you use it twice would be educational.
skilled_thinking15A8
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
September 2, 2017
Agree about that we don't need to have all the tools available in Select and Mask!
But I know a lot of expert using for decades this quick and precise dodge/burn technic.

And in my opinion, to be perfect/complete, Select and Mask will also need these option:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/option-to-disable-the-global-refinements-on-r...

I'm on the road for a week+, but I will do a quick video to clarify what I mean by these 2 requests, if you want.
skilled_thinking15A8
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
September 2, 2017
They could but with a tool(s), it will be apply only where it's needed.
skilled_thinking15A8
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
September 2, 2017
Blend modes also will work but in my experience not as smooth as dodge/burn.
But agree, that would be a nice alternative.
Inspiring
September 1, 2017
> add a denoise/median slider. >

Now that's a technique I've never used to modify a mask. I think I can follow using Median, although I'm not sure what Denoise does, apart from blur together closely related tones. Would that act on just the edges?  Would you mind describing this in more detail? I'm always willing to learn a new trick.

I do think Select and Mask is going to need to have enough tools in the dialog we don't "start" there and then finish or clean up the results somewhere else. That kind of defeats the purpose, imo, of having a separate module for masking. In fact, it might work to have Color Range inside S&M as well.
Earth Oliver
Legend
September 1, 2017
Or they could do what they should have done in the beginning and add a denoise/median slider. 
Inspiring
September 1, 2017
They could even just give us blend modes for the Paintbrush, as we have in PS proper. We don't really need extra tools if we have that feature, no?  Just trying to keep it real, real simple for them.<G>