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Inspiring
March 29, 2025
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Caption tool disrespects "multiline/single line" and "word frequency" settings

  • March 29, 2025
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  1. From the Transcript tab in the Text panel, click the hamburger menu and choose Create Captions.
  2. In the Create Captions dialog, click the blue arrow to expand "Captioning Preferences"
  3. Slide the "Minimum length in characters" and "Minimum duration in seconds" sliders all the way to the left
  4. Under "Lines," choose "Single"

 

Expected: 
The intent is to have a single-word caption for each word spoken.  No captions should be on multiple lines. No captions should contain more than one word.

Actual:
Captions frequently (and randomly?) occupy multiple lines, despite me explicitly telling PPro i want single lines. 
Captions frequently (and randomly?) contain more than one word, despite me dragging those sliders all the way to the left.

i read this response to someone else having this problem:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/captions/m-p/13311192

... but the size of the text box is not the issue. Premiere Pro will frequently put two words in a single caption, and will frequently multiple-word captions on multiple lines. If i go in and delete the line break, the words can clearly fit on a single line. But there shouldn't even BE multiple words in a caption to begin with, because i have the sliders pulled all the way to the left, and the software should be smart enough to know that a SPACE character indicates a separate word.

The net result is that instead of "set it and forget it," i have to spend a lot of time combing through my entire video to make numerous annoying little tweaks to the captions to break up multiple words and multiple lines. i shouldn't have to.

15 replies

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 15, 2025

Hi @Untold Entertainment Inc. -   I’ve moved your post to the Ideas forum. Currently, captions are working as intended the optimizer will try to hit the targets if possible, but it’s not guaranteed. If you’re looking for stricter control, Submachine plugin can help with that.  Here's a tutorial Submachine - Full Walkthrough

 

 

Inspiring
April 9, 2025

Hi, Jamie.

Windows 11 24H2
Premiere Pro 2025 v 25.2.0 Build 147
GeForce RTX 4090. Driver version 572.83

There's something programmatically interesting happening, i've noticed: certain specific phrases tend to be grouped together without fail. The words "in the comments" seem to reliably ignore the captions setting and group together on one line, along with "let me know." But it might just be that the speaker says them quickly, and the caption setting slider can't be adjusted below 1.2s? (Although with that setting, many/most words are still displayed singly, despite taking far less than 1.2s to utter.) So it seems to be picking and choosing which words and phrases to group?  No idea about the double-line issue tho.

- Ryan

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
March 31, 2025

Hi @Untold Entertainment Inc. - Thanks for submitting your bug report. We need a few more details to try to help with the issue.
Can you let us know your computer specs and what version of Premiere you are on?


Sorry for the frustration.

Inspiring
March 30, 2025

Thanks, Stan. Speaking as both a PPro customer and a software developer, if an option presented to the user says "Don't make this red," and the user clicks it, and the response from the software is to make something red anyway, that's most assuredly a bug. There's really no other way to spin it.

Stan Jones
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 30, 2025

@Untold Entertainment Inc.,

 

Upvoted although I can argue pro/con on whether it is a bug per se. At a minimum it is frustrating that there is not more control. But captions are not designed for single word output - until you use the increasingly common one word/animated captions!

 

Thanks for focusing on this. I had not tested for some time. At the moment, I am in PR Beta 25.3.0.34.

 

I agree that the best option for getting one word caption segments is Max characters 7, Min duration 1.2, and Single lines.

 

In a 3:46 sample that I have used for testing in several versions with a horizontal/landscape frame, I get a very high percentage of single words and zero captions that are not single line. But there are many two word exceptions ("a software" or "at Adobe") and a few short phrases ("I had a bunch of them").

 

But there is a lot of clean-up for a strict one word style.

 

See my comments about "each option cannot be primary" here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/create-captions-minimum-duration-in-seconds-being-completely-ignored/m-p/13987771#M523835

 

Stan

 

Edited 4/24/25 to correct "Min" characters to Max characters.