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hellopaul4
Inspiring
April 10, 2025
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Have Lumetri Scopes ignore subtitles

  • April 10, 2025
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As the title suggests, I'd like the option to have Lumetri Scopes ignore the subtitles. I can't think of a situation where I'd want my subtitles to be part of my colour grade, so it'd be nice if (by default) Lumetri ignored any subtitle/caption tracks.

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Stan Jones
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 17, 2025

@hellopaul4 @Michael Grenadier,

 

> I feel your pain making DVDs -  .... It felt like some kind of extreme-analogue-alchemy, getting those sodding things to work.

 

I missed miss the other day. Brought back a lot of memories. Cable TV was out the other night, TV and internet. I could find only one DVD movie to play. But there was one!

 

Yes, there are still reports of captions not burning in, burning in when they shouldn't, etc. Pesky set of problems.

 

Stan

 

hellopaul4
Inspiring
April 15, 2025

Ha! Evidently the "not exporting captions sometimes" bug has NOT been squished - I have just exported a sequence like this:

  1. Sequence has 1 subtitle track, and it is ON in the timeline.
  2. ctrl-M to export it.
  3. In the (nasty) export tab, scrub through to check the subtitles are there. They are.
  4. Change the codec from H.264 to H.265.
  5. Reduce the bitrate from 35 to about 10.
  6. Export.

Result: No captions!

 

Go back to PPro

ctrl-M the timeline again

Change absolutely nothing, then Export

 

Result: It has captions!!

 

Luckily PPro only took a minute or so to do each export, so it wasn't a massive waste of time.

hellopaul4
Inspiring
April 11, 2025

Indeed - and I do normally scroll through to check the captions, because sometimes (not sure if the bug has been squished or not) regardless of whether the captions option (in the export) is on or off and regardless of whether the captions track is visible, the captions may or may not be displayed. (I have not seen this bug for a while, happily!)

 

I feel your pain making DVDs - happily I've not done that for - wow....probably 20 years! I used the ironically titled DVD Studio "Pro" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Studio_Pro) to make many, many coasters and frisbees. I spent many an hour fixing things, only for the next "burn" to break other things. It felt like some kind of extreme-analogue-alchemy, getting those sodding things to work. I worked for a company that wanted to pitch itself as doing DVD authoring, so we had one "showreel" DVD that showed off all the bells and whistles that the DVD format could muster - multiple camera angles, multiple subtitles, multiple soundtracks, switchable 16:9 or 4:3 (remember that?!) layouts/video, complex menu structures...I even managed to code some kind of random number generator to play a randomly selected music track. Overlays were the bane of my life - theoretically one could make (in Photoshop) a simple greyscale (or bitmap?) image which would create the highlights for selected menu items. It NEVER lined up with the footage/image underneath, so it was not uncommon to have to move button overlays WAAY out of position, so the preview (before burning) looked crap, but when actually burnt and played back from the DVD, looked fine! Of course then changing this would probably create some totally unrelated error on a soundtrack or something on a completely different part of the DVD. I am glad to see the death of DVDs!

Legend
April 11, 2025

not sure if this would be useful, but there are options that relate to captions in the export dialog that might help with this.  Honestly, I had to dive deep into captions a few years ago for a dvd project (a nightmare since the only current dvd authoring program is a nightmare - we had a use an old machine with an old os to run dvdsp).   But since then I've wiped the nightmare from my memory banks.   Stan Jones here is the caption expert and might have some ideas for you.  But gotta say, you need to pay attention when you're starting an export...  can't tell you how many times I've unintentionally had the export limited to in to out...  Having screwed up many many times, I've learned to check this out before I start an export.    And also, in the export dialog, you can scroll thru the timeline. and you'll see if the captions are being displayed.  

hellopaul4
Inspiring
April 11, 2025

That is indeed the preferred current option...but it's possible to then forget to turn them back on after the colour grading, set the thing exporting, wait for PPro to casually use about 10% of my computer's processing power to lazily plod through the export, check the exported file....then swear at myself for not turning the subtitles back on before export!

Legend
April 11, 2025

Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not simply turn off the subtitle track when you're grading?